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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.29 · baric_ti:utt:00170

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Ralph S. Baric
It's frequent everywhere in the world. Institutional memory is key.

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    They seemed uncertain, not surprised. "Uncertain" would be the better word, about the status of these documents, which surprised me.
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    So that paper was in 2015. It was NIHfunded research.
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    If I were to guess, institutional memory, retired, and they didn't know where the documents were, would be my guess.
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Is that frequent at NIH?
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric
    It's frequent everywhere in the world. Institutional memory is key.
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    I would expect, as a government entity that funds a lot of IT modernization efforts and systems for agencies, I'm a little shocked that they don't have a way to pull up taxpayer-funded applications.
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Well, it wouldn't be the application. It would be a specialized series of documents associated with P3CO review. Again, this would have been very early on, too, so the formalized structure for that review wasn't, I think, finalized until '16 or '17, I think, with the NSABB stuff. DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    But there was a structure.
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    There certainly was a structure. They reviewed it, responded, and then asked for responses from me, and then I gave those responses.

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