Private channel session 1178
28 messages over 4h 58m, 2021-03-31 – 2021-03-31.
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/31/health/lab-leak-coronavirus-theory-comic-book-scn/index.html
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I'm thinking this is my favorite article I've ever been quoted in of all time.
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Haha, it's a good article - love the quotes Bob :wink:
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She did a good job - was just chatting with Angie this morning too about the info in the report of more than one market being involved in the early cases - didn't know then we were going to be quoted together.
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She's so good - I would never want to get into an argument with her. I'd be dead/
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either that or you'd be wishing that you were.
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Pompeo's tweet is extraordinary
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Here's a report that is very pertinent to the Pompeo tweet. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/who-report-says-covid-originated-in-bats-but-critics-claim-the-study-was-biased Daszak does a very good job here IMO. Mile's Yu also inthe report was Pompeo's main point man on China - deep seated familial hatred of CCP/China. I suspect that Alina's family has similar stores to tell.
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Relman really is an idiot - I actually thought he was a good, solid scientist. Apparently not - doesn't understand "data" and "false equivalences". I guess he isn't alone. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-31 at 12.56.43.png]
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Agreed - Another one who didn't read/understand the report.
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The evidence is pretty well laid out in Annex D
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If you go to the end PBS actually does some real reporting - they quote 3 current White House staff to the effect that the Pompeo DoS "fact sheet" was cherry-picked out of a cacophony of noise.
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One think we predict though was that having Daszak on has back-fired badly. What were they thinking?
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All we can do is ignore all this noise and just try to focus on the science.
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The noise is like a roaring highway though - and driven by some very high profile scientists. It's sad, really.
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True, but there's no way that China will let another team in so ultimately it's all pointless
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Is there a plan to "publish" a summary report? Is the WHO team going to do a joint publication? Seems like perhapsPO2 might now be in order.
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Can't believe WHO will publish. There's also Daszak's Lancet Commission. PO2 is an idea...to focus tightly on the science. Can we plan this after Easter? I'll see where we are with the pangolins.
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IIRC The Lancet thing is targeted for end of the year . Yes - after Easter GOOD! Lots of science has come since PO1.
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BTW !channel one of these posters is coming to each of you [even Ian] - just need to find some appropriately largepackaging. [shared file(s): IMG_1694.JPG]
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Thanks @Robert Garry that's amazing!!
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Haha, love the poster :zany_face:
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Thank god for the South China Morning Post: https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3127858/let-science-decide-origins-covid-19
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Good for them - WSJ should read this... "The theory needs to be laid to rest lest it distracts from scientific tracking ofthe virus" :clap:
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It's :point_down: all over again, which I said in reply to Amy. _I think a lot of people don't (or don't want to) really understand how the WHO works or its mandate. There is somuch focus on "WE MUST GO IN TO FULLY INVESTIGATE WIV!", while the more important study is acollaborative endeavor, focusing on the more likely scenarios._I don't think the likes of Jesse understand this. Any of it.
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Yes, totally agree. Clearly, a lot of the people who are currently mouthing off are failing to understand these basic points.
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Yeah, especially the kind of attitude from Rasmus. Not a peep for weeks and then this is all you post about the report? Fuck off. It's fine that you disagree on the conclusions and we can argue the science / data, but an attitudelike this is just terrible behavior. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-30 at 10.56.58 AM.png]
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He's totally out of his depth on this.