Private channel session 815
16 messages over 1h 17m, 2021-01-16 – 2021-01-16.
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Agree with the idea that these actually are pango viruses and not just repeated spillovers.
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77 H1N1 had sat in a freezer for 25 years. Was bleeding obvious from the phylogenetics. It was demonstrated in 1978 through hybridization methods https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0042682278902039?via%3Dihub
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I explained this to Jesse previously.... I do not believe there's a single documented emergence event of a novel virus to a human from the lab, let alone one starting an outbreak/epidemic/pandemic. Yes, plenty of lab leaks, but all of the known kind and all easilyidentifiable.
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Yes, all correct.
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Can't see any real point in entering into a debate on this. We just need new data.
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New data... Hah - I'm sure that'll convince 'em :wink:
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All good points. I'm surprised at all the love and comfort given to the conspiracy theorists. Jesse, Relman obviously, now ME. [shared file(s): image.png]
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Of course not, but it's not about convincing them - it's about producing the most complete scientific picture possible.
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He forgot 'scientific reasons'.
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Hah
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Not surprising ME a wannabe politician [briefly ran for Senate] and likely pissed of that Biden picked EL for the WHpost.
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But, the more I look at RmYN02 and RaTG13 s1/s2 cleavage sites the more I'm convinced that there's a bat CoV out there with at least a very close homolg to SARS FCS already there. QTQTNS plus NSPAAR. Put'em together and what'a you got?
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I do keep messing with this. [shared file(s): image.png]
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You should get a job at the WIV Bob.
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I'm told they love me (us) over there.
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Hi Bob, I've gone over the Google Docs text and it looks good! The only that I don't quite follow is the logic thecomparisons to RmYN02 as I don't see this virus as being 'ancestral' or falling particularly deep in the phylogeny.We could probably determine the ancestral sequence for all these positions but it will take a bit of work.