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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.411 [SLACK_000625] · slack_pm:msg:04245

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Date
2021-01-16 14:53
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Robert F. Garry

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Agree with the idea that these actually are pango viruses and not just repeated spillovers.

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  1. 2021-01-16 14:53 Robert F. Garry
    Agree with the idea that these actually are pango viruses and not just repeated spillovers.
  2. 2021-01-16 14:58 Andrew Rambaut open
    77 H1N1 had sat in a freezer for 25 years. Was bleeding obvious from the phylogenetics. It was demonstrated in 1978 through hybridization methods https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0042682278902039?via%3Dihub
  3. 2021-01-16 15:00 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I explained this to Jesse previously.... I do not believe there's a single documented emergence event of a novel virus to a human from the lab, let alone one starting an outbreak/epidemic/pandemic. Yes, plenty of lab leaks, but all of the known kind and all easilyidentifiable.
  4. 2021-01-16 15:03 Edward C. Holmes open
    Yes, all correct.
  5. 2021-01-16 15:04 Edward C. Holmes open
    Can't see any real point in entering into a debate on this. We just need new data.

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