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stigma. [2021-05-19 13:02:49] [Robert Garry] Good to hear. I will endeavor not to get too far out over my skis on the phylogeny. Yes - the stigma issue was well-discussed and vaccination might be key. I'm talking to Merck (one of my students (Tom Voss is there - Jessica was also at Merck but moved a few weeks ago to J&J) about - at least - providing some vaccine to our Ebola survivor cohort in SL to test this. [2021-05-19 13:28:38] [Kristian Andersen] [thread - ID: 2021-05-19 02:30:26] @Eddie Holmes > I think the laws of free speech allow me to call a bunch of conspiracy theorists conspiracy theorists. I believe you're indeed right. Bloomshitters too. [2021-05-19 13:38:57] [Robert Garry] [thread - ID: 2021-05-19 02:30:26] @Eddie Holmes https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/05/19/coronavirus-origins It's remarkable to me how "rationale people" writing about Bloomshit avoid the obvious --- if you think that WIV had SC2 or something very close and didn't tell anyone HOW in the hell is this _not_ a conspiracy theory. Won't responsible commentary or journalism maybe mention that? [2021-05-19 14:29:25] [Eddie Holmes] [thread - ID: 2021-05-19 02:30:26] @Eddie Holmes At least some of the comments are reasonable. Molecular Biologist is spot on. [2021-05-19 14:31:16] [Andrew Rambaut] I'm on that paper and did most of the phylogenetic... [2021-05-19 14:34:10] [Robert Garry] Noticed that and guessed that - It's a really important piece of work. Trying to figure out how best to do it justice in the Commentary. [2021-05-19 14:34:41] [Kristian Andersen] [thread - ID: 2021-05-19 02:30:26] @Eddie Holmes He's basically reiterating what we said in our paper - but people apparently still don't get it. [2021-05-19 14:35:59] [Kristian Andersen] [thread - ID: 2021-05-19 02:30:26] @Eddie Holmes Why Derek felt the need to write this, I don't know. It's as if anybody with a science background - or no science background - feels qualified to comment on what is an extremely complex issue. Again, these people just can't get past the fact it started in Wuhan. [2021-05-19 14:36:49] [Kristian Andersen] [thread - ID: 2021-05-19 02:30:26]