Slack / Private Message Drop — page 560

It is indeed a total disaster. The original version was a technical piece about issues in phylogenetic analysis. It was fine. The Editor then completely rewrote it into this shit. But all that stuff about Emma saving the world came from the paper authors. That was embarrassing and misleading. It also totally over-hyped the issues. Rob Lanfear said he agreed with my concerns but still decided to be an author! [2021-03-01 15:11:19] [Kristian Andersen] One very important question the authors need to ask themselves - would they have been authors if this had been for, say, Nature Microbiology and not Nature? [2021-03-01 15:12:32] [Kristian Andersen] Charles trying to convince me to stay on his paper made it very clear that he had been talking directly to NEJM and Cell and that they both wanted it - this should _never_ be a consideration when it comes to sloppy science. Or whatever-the-fuck this is. Just horrible. [2021-03-01 15:13:28] [Eddie Holmes] The reaction to their paper is EXACTLY what I told them would happen. They were warned!! [2021-03-01 15:23:18] [Andrew Rambaut] There we go. As predicted: [shared file(s): image.png] [2021-03-01 15:23:31] [Andrew Rambaut] "exactly what we were trying to avoid" [2021-03-01 15:27:14] [Eddie Holmes] That's total BS!!! You saw my emails. [2021-03-01 15:31:11] [Eddie Holmes] If they wanted to avoid these issues they would removed all the personal stuff. [2021-03-01 15:32:54] [Kristian Andersen] And this is directly insulting to me - this isn't about fucking me man! [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-01 at 15.31.21.png] [2021-03-01 15:37:59] [Eddie Holmes] I've just written to Rob. [2021-03-01 15:40:43] [Robert Garry] Jeez - just got back from a long lecture - may have started out with good intentions, but wow so off base. "And good choice taking yourself off the paper" INDEED! Safe to say Rob didn't get the point.... [2021-03-01 15:46:45] [Andrew Rambaut] Just written to Emma. Don't want to pile on these people - it is Nick and Christophe who should be responsible. [2021-03-01 15:50:15] [Eddie Holmes]