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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.1052 [SLACK_001266] · slack_pm:msg:10999

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Date
2022-01-13 05:23
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Robert F. Garry

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Yes - important to remember that the scenarios in PO1 were synthesized from whole cloth. That's why PO1 had such an impact and ppl like Alina hate it. It's because it so clearly and cleanly laid out the possibilities.

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  1. 2022-01-13 05:14 Andrew Rambaut open
    This one is also good - shows we were discussing all of the possibilities: [shared file(s): image.png]
  2. 2022-01-13 05:18 Andrew Rambaut open
    Also - there are links to google docs (only in emails between us). So if FOIs were granted would mean these go public. ``` Trying to create a summary of the most important takeaways from the discussions today. Please feel free to edit/slash/comment. Hoping that we could maybe share this with Jeremy and Tony tomorrow (if y'all think it makes sense).https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HOVHVaahY2wMwAij_Mb-rLTV3QomBai-DwRDcn506OE/edit?usp=sharing```
  3. 2022-01-13 05:19 Andrew Rambaut open
    I just say this because the complete edit history is in these docs. That may help show that there was not interferencebut need to check how these might be interpreted.
  4. 2022-01-13 05:21 Andrew Rambaut open
    The very start of this document is actually really good description of our position (i.e., notes from the conference call): [shared file(s): image.png]
  5. 2022-01-13 05:23 Robert F. Garry
    Yes - important to remember that the scenarios in PO1 were synthesized from whole cloth. That's why PO1 had such an impact and ppl like Alina hate it. It's because it so clearly and cleanly laid out the possibilities.
  6. 2022-01-13 05:25 Andrew Rambaut open
    It is also important to remember it started as a report to the group that requested our investigation.
  7. 2022-01-13 05:30 Andrew Rambaut open
    Further - the stuff (from Ron, as it happens, not Tony or Jeremy) that it might harm Chinese science in the snippetbelow - it is the 'accusations' - if not supported by strong data - that he is talking about. [shared file(s): image.png]
  8. 2022-01-13 05:33 Andrew Rambaut open
    From Collins: 'Wondering if there is something NIH can do to help put down this very destructive conspiracy, with what seems to be growing momentum' - again it is the conspiracy they are talking about.
  9. 2022-01-13 05:34 Robert F. Garry open
    I have a feeling that the final words have not yet been written about the Origins of Proximal Origins.

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