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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.1023 [SLACK_001237] · slack_pm:msg:10688

Date: 2021-11-17 17:41
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Edward C. Holmes
Topics: Lab-leak / accidental release hypothesis

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The lab leak was not the big thing when he wrote the DT letter Since it has blown up he has tried to distance him from Shi et al He clearly thinks silence works

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The lab leak was not the big thing when he wrote the DT letter Since it has blown up he has tried to distance him from Shi et al He clearly thinks silence works	quoted / not their view	paraphrase_third_party third-party reporting verb	asserts

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The lab leak was not the big thing when he wrote the DT letter Since it has blown up he has tried to distance him from Shi et al He clearly thinks silence works

quoted / not their view

paraphrase_third_party third-party reporting verb

asserts

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2021-11-17 17:38 Edward C. Holmes open

I think he's just trying to protect himself now and distance himself from WIV and Daszak
2021-11-17 17:38 Andrew Rambaut open

It seems delusional to imagine it is OK to try and get a journalist to write this report whilst knowing that you had planned to do these things
2021-11-17 17:39 Andrew Rambaut open

Good to keep it technical
2021-11-17 17:39 Kristian G. Andersen open

"invertebrate twat" to keep it classy?
2021-11-17 17:41 Edward C. Holmes

The lab leak was not the big thing when he wrote the DT letter Since it has blown up he has tried to distance him from Shi et al He clearly thinks silence works
2021-11-17 18:28 Robert F. Garry open

Everything comes around - people read the articles. It all gets cataloged and recorded. The problem with Baric is heshowed zero class by throwing Shi under the bus. Mike Worobey was at that fun fest with Asher, Quay, Baric, Relman, Bloom and Chan that spawned the SCience ltr- I'm betting MW has some insights. I'm prety sure it's part ofwhat is motivating MW right now..
2021-11-17 18:52 Edward C. Holmes open

Indeed. He signed a letter saying that China should be more transparent and is on a hidden grant that proposes todrop FCSs into Chinese bat viruses.

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