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Private channel session 1651

11 messages over 1h 36m, 2021-11-17 – 2021-11-17.

A “conversation” here is an activity session — a run of messages with under 60 minutes of silence inside it. The channel had no native conversation boundaries.

  1. 2021-11-17 17:15 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.1023
    Just pulling the Baric discussion back to the Zoonati high priesthood - I wonder if the DT letter takes on any newinterpretation given what we now know Baric was planning/doing. Makes it seems like an even weirder play to me.
  2. 2021-11-17 17:19 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1023
    Two things that I think are clear - (1) Baric thinks of himself as the only expert and (2) is vindictive. He emailed Jon that shit and signed that Science letter 100% out of spite - I have no doubts about it.
  3. 2021-11-17 17:33 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.1023
    (3) completely delusional and oblivious
  4. 2021-11-17 17:37 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1023
    Possible, but I doubt it - Baric seems very calculated to me.
  5. 2021-11-17 17:38 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.1023
    I think he's just trying to protect himself now and distance himself from WIV and Daszak
  6. 2021-11-17 17:38 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.1023
    It seems delusional to imagine it is OK to try and get a journalist to write this report whilst knowing that you had planned to do these things
  7. 2021-11-17 17:39 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.1023
    Good to keep it technical
  8. 2021-11-17 17:39 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1023
    "invertebrate twat" to keep it classy?
  9. 2021-11-17 17:41 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.1023
    The lab leak was not the big thing when he wrote the DT letter Since it has blown up he has tried to distance him from Shi et al He clearly thinks silence works
  10. 2021-11-17 18:28 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.1023
    Everything comes around - people read the articles. It all gets cataloged and recorded. The problem with Baric is heshowed zero class by throwing Shi under the bus. Mike Worobey was at that fun fest with Asher, Quay, Baric, Relman, Bloom and Chan that spawned the SCience ltr- I'm betting MW has some insights. I'm prety sure it's part ofwhat is motivating MW right now..
  11. 2021-11-17 18:52 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.1024
    Indeed. He signed a letter saying that China should be more transparent and is on a hidden grant that proposes todrop FCSs into Chinese bat viruses.