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1. 2021-10-12 14:10 Robert F. Garry open
   Honestly though, fuck Alina and her privacy invasion - good grief. Scientists need to be able to communicate in private without fear of some asshole coming back later and pointing out shit with perfect hindsight. @Kristian Andersen pointed me to this general area above. Turns out - yeah Delta - Lessons learned - who knew that yes we totally should have been freaking out! [shared file(s): image.png]
2. 2021-10-12 14:15 Kristian G. Andersen open
   I still maintain that everything we said there was true - based on available evidence at the time, there was no reasonto freak out. Just look at the recent headlines from Newsweek on mutations...
3. 2021-10-12 14:18 Robert F. Garry open
   Agreed - my point exactly - all perfectly true and reasonable!
4. 2021-10-12 14:20 Robert F. Garry
   But, idiots like 4$ would have a field day.
5. 2021-10-12 14:29 Kristian G. Andersen open
   Yup.
6. 2021-10-12 14:29 Andrew Rambaut open
   Delta is not the double mutant. It doesn't have E484Q
7. 2021-10-12 14:40 Edward C. Holmes open
   It does make my blood boil that Alina - who has legitiised hate and attacks on scientists - is featured as a victim inthat Nature piece. No doubt she will milk this on Twitter. She has done more than anyone to create a narrative that ifyou a believe in a natural origin you are part of a conspiracy.
8. 2021-10-12 14:47 Kristian G. Andersen open
   I'll be emailing Nature as soon as this comes out to point that out - they have been asking us to fill out the questionary multiple times, but I never did. But not to realize that Alina is one of the ring leaders in _exactly what the article is about_ is pretty astonishing.

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