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It isn't a recombinant.

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2021-06-25 15:08 Edward C. Holmes open

Perhaps I should post it and let the public decide
2021-06-25 15:09 Andrew Rambaut open

It doesn't cite our recombination in B.1.1.7 paper - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.18.21258689v1 (which was also on virological for a few months)
2021-06-25 15:10 Edward C. Holmes open

This paper is saying that B.1.1.7 is itself a recombinant
2021-06-25 15:10 Andrew Rambaut open

It also doesn't cite our original virological post https://virological.org/t/563 which gives a suggestion of how it arose (not stepwise)
2021-06-25 15:11 Andrew Rambaut

It isn't a recombinant.
2021-06-25 15:11 Andrew Rambaut open

But I don't care really - it won't get anywhere
2021-06-25 15:12 Edward C. Holmes open

I'll ponder it...
2021-06-25 15:12 Kristian G. Andersen open

I'd reject it - if they then come back, it can go online. But the methods are incorrect.
2021-06-25 15:12 Andrew Rambaut open

There are some intermediates but we believe they are sequences of mixtures (we can look at the BAM files - they are all one ENA unlike the Wuhan genomes)