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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.950 [SLACK_001164] · slack_pm:msg:09888

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Date
2021-06-19 23:25
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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I'm afraid - I won't make the Zoom tomorrow. Too early. Forgive me.

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  1. 2021-06-19 22:21 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Just for reference - a list of the various mutations that often come up. Also, an alignment with Jesse's sequences and some other relevant ones. Looking through all of this and reading the preprint a couple of times - this adds nothing. He found some deleted data, which is cool, but the reason for deletion has to do with fear of the CCP and them making it very clear they control everything - yes, not ideal, but welcome to the real world. I would not be in those scientists' shoes - they're going to go through hell. [shared file(s): 2021.06.19_SARS-CoV-2_RaTG13 Bloom.geneious, early_muts.txt]
  2. 2021-06-19 22:23 Edward C. Holmes open
    Jesse's paper is hugely inflammatory. He didn't need to write it that way. Going to be a shit storm.
  3. 2021-06-19 22:25 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Agreed. He's so far down the conspiracy route and that's driving the language - he even thank those people in theacknowledgments...I mean, this is nice enough and impressive effort - plus I totally agree that it'd be very helpful to get all of those fully sequenced + metadata, but do we think that's going to happen after this paper...? Words matter.
  4. 2021-06-19 22:41 Edward C. Holmes open
    The pangolin bit makes my blood boil - he's included irrelevant FOIAd emails from people with no chance of reply. Anew low.
  5. 2021-06-19 23:25 Edward C. Holmes
    I'm afraid - I won't make the Zoom tomorrow. Too early. Forgive me.

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