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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.933 [SLACK_001147] · slack_pm:msg:09702

Date: 2021-06-08 09:25
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry
Topics: Wuhan Institute of Virology collaboration Lab-leak / accidental release hypothesis Intelligence community assessments

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I was typing this - but Zooming better >>>>>>We're a little late to respond directly to Bloom2021. Inmy ideal world we would have a doc that peels off the more credible scientists (eg. Worobey) that have spoken outin favor of Lab Leak. Somehow encourage then to get past the superficial data that the outbreak started in Wuhan that has the WIV. The Evidence doc - I think could be used to address the CGGCGG nonsense, 2-3 sick WIV employees etc.. I'd make it a standalone supplement doc, but also a living doc - somewhere - not sure virological isbest but a possibility..

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Worobey) that have spoken outin favor of Lab Leak.	needs context	speaker_own	asserts
Somehow encourage then to get past the superficial data that the outbreak started in Wuhan that has the WIV.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts
The Evidence doc - I think could be used to address the CGGCGG nonsense, 2-3 sick WIV employees etc..	quoted / not their view	sarcasm ironic or mocking marker	denies

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Worobey) that have spoken outin favor of Lab Leak.

needs context

speaker_own

asserts

Somehow encourage then to get past the superficial data that the outbreak started in Wuhan that has the WIV.

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

asserts

The Evidence doc - I think could be used to address the CGGCGG nonsense, 2-3 sick WIV employees etc..

quoted / not their view

sarcasm ironic or mocking marker

denies

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2021-06-08 09:10 Andrew Rambaut open

I think we need a plan for this paper or whatever it is we are going to produce. Things have moved so fast, I am not sure what we originally intended is the right course (i.e., letter to Nature etc addressing the Bloom letter). Should webe addressing the points being made by Wade and all - i.e., the arginine codons etc? I have heard a lot of people thinking this stuff is real science. Or just focus on why animals in the markets make the most sense? What do you think?
2021-06-08 09:23 Kristian G. Andersen open

I think it makes sense to have a quick Zoom to discuss. Maybe once Eddie is up?
2021-06-08 09:25 Robert F. Garry

I was typing this - but Zooming better >>>>>>We're a little late to respond directly to Bloom2021. Inmy ideal world we would have a doc that peels off the more credible scientists (eg. Worobey) that have spoken outin favor of Lab Leak. Somehow encourage then to get past the superficial data that the outbreak started in Wuhan that has the WIV. The Evidence doc - I think could be used to address the CGGCGG nonsense, 2-3 sick WIV employees etc.. I'd make it a standalone supplement doc, but also a living doc - somewhere - not sure virological isbest but a possibility..
2021-06-08 09:29 Andrew Rambaut open

I would prefer to keep it out of virological but we could create something. Could be fun to do it as a git hub repo.Allow us to have a full commit history, issue list etc. Would drive the Drastic bunch nuts because they would see it all happen but not be able to do anything.
2021-06-08 09:31 Andrew Rambaut open

Zoom later would be good.
2021-06-08 09:34 Kristian G. Andersen open

Github would be great - I have been doing the same for some of my stuff. Let's have a Zoom once Eddie is up.
2021-06-08 09:35 Andrew Rambaut open

You can actually have the repo private but the output public in the pages.

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