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Zeynep seems convinced by the lab leak - I'm assuming her story will be absolutely awful.

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Zeynep seems convinced by the lab leak - I'm assuming her story will be absolutely awful.	needs context	uncertain explicit hedge	asserts

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Zeynep seems convinced by the lab leak - I'm assuming her story will be absolutely awful.

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2021-06-05 15:38 Edward C. Holmes open

Exactly. I'll get painted as someone who tried to gag the heroine. If you actually read my email to Lander it clearly says she is entitled to her opinion but that these attacks on my research integrity have crossed the line.
2021-06-05 15:39 Robert F. Garry open

Anyone in contact with zeynep NYTimes?
2021-06-05 15:40 Andrew Rambaut open

I had an off-the-record background chat (for about 2.5 hours)
2021-06-05 15:42 Robert F. Garry open

Impression - mine mixed - I think she's smart but has taken a sip or two of the Alina Kool-aid.
2021-06-05 15:42 Kristian G. Andersen

Zeynep seems convinced by the lab leak - I'm assuming her story will be absolutely awful.
2021-06-05 15:46 Robert F. Garry open

She's Turkish - bringing a high prior that oppressive governments lie and cover-up. Some very convoluted thinkingto back up the prior.
2021-06-05 15:46 Andrew Rambaut open

I just keep pushing all our points. She tried some nonsense Bayesian thing but clearly doesn't understand that.
2021-06-05 15:46 Edward C. Holmes open

I declined to talk to her.
2021-06-05 15:56 Robert F. Garry open

Good to know - she is apparently writing her own long-form version. Hard to guess (beyond) Alina, who she is talking too.