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Private channel session 1482

14 messages over 50m, 2021-06-05 – 2021-06-05.

A “conversation” here is an activity session — a run of messages with under 60 minutes of silence inside it. The channel had no native conversation boundaries.

  1. 2021-06-05 15:08 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.924
    Science. R.I.P.
  2. 2021-06-05 15:29 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.924
    shared file(s): question on Fauci emails & an Alina Chan tweet.
  3. 2021-06-05 15:29 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.924
    Clearly digging... Antonio is such an idiot.
  4. 2021-06-05 15:34 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.924
    I can see the angle there - "trying to silence the conversation".
  5. 2021-06-05 15:38 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.925
    Exactly. I'll get painted as someone who tried to gag the heroine. If you actually read my email to Lander it clearly says she is entitled to her opinion but that these attacks on my research integrity have crossed the line.
  6. 2021-06-05 15:39 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.925
    Anyone in contact with zeynep NYTimes?
  7. 2021-06-05 15:40 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.925
    I had an off-the-record background chat (for about 2.5 hours)
  8. 2021-06-05 15:42 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.925
    Impression - mine mixed - I think she's smart but has taken a sip or two of the Alina Kool-aid.
  9. 2021-06-05 15:42 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.925
    Zeynep seems convinced by the lab leak - I'm assuming her story will be absolutely awful.
  10. 2021-06-05 15:46 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.925
    She's Turkish - bringing a high prior that oppressive governments lie and cover-up. Some very convoluted thinkingto back up the prior.
  11. 2021-06-05 15:46 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.925
    I just keep pushing all our points. She tried some nonsense Bayesian thing but clearly doesn't understand that.
  12. 2021-06-05 15:46 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.925
    I declined to talk to her.
  13. 2021-06-05 15:56 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.925
    Good to know - she is apparently writing her own long-form version. Hard to guess (beyond) Alina, who she is talking too.
  14. 2021-06-05 15:59 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.925
    I think Angie might have some background on it...