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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.917 [SLACK_001131] · slack_pm:msg:09518

Date: 2021-06-04 09:49
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen
Topics: Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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If he can find evidence of pangolins at the Huanan market and link that back to e.g., that wildlife rescue center, holysmokes - I mean, that would be an actual smoking gun. A big one.

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If he can find evidence of pangolins at the Huanan market and link that back to e.g., that wildlife rescue center, holysmokes - I mean, that would be an actual smoking gun.	quoted / not their view	hypothetical conditional framing	asserts

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If he can find evidence of pangolins at the Huanan market and link that back to e.g., that wildlife rescue center, holysmokes - I mean, that would be an actual smoking gun.

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hypothetical conditional framing

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2021-06-04 09:21 Robert F. Garry open

Yes - with the proper editing it could probably be made to say: Reinstate the one true President, Donald J. Trump.
2021-06-04 09:43 Kristian G. Andersen open

From the journo Eddie was talking to - "the pangolins WIV was using in CoV studies". Wait, what? Do we know about WIV working in pangolin CoVs in the lab? If so, that's huge - I haven't heard anything about that. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-06-04 at 9.42.11 AM.png]
2021-06-04 09:47 Robert F. Garry open

He must be mistaken - maybe he taking about the original pango studies that were reported in 2019 viruses paper. And yes Eddies on some of the pango papers and I think a para flu papers where they are sick with C19-likeillnesses.
2021-06-04 09:48 Kristian G. Andersen open

I think so too - and I just followed up with him about that, plus this. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-06-04 at9.48.17 AM.png]
2021-06-04 09:49 Kristian G. Andersen

If he can find evidence of pangolins at the Huanan market and link that back to e.g., that wildlife rescue center, holysmokes - I mean, that would be an actual smoking gun. A big one.
2021-06-04 09:49 Kristian G. Andersen open

(a smoking gun for wildlife trade > rescue centers > dead animals > human food chain)
2021-06-04 09:50 Kristian G. Andersen open

It's actually not crazy - a dead pangolin is no good in a wildlife rescue center, but it's HIGHLY valuable in a wet market. Bloody hell - if true, this would be so obvious.
2021-06-04 10:19 Robert F. Garry open

Paid in the pocket virologists - David Asher.https://www.foxnews.com/world/wuhan-lab-leak-scenario-complicated-prove-credibility
2021-06-04 10:20 Robert F. Garry open

Talking bout us...

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