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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.917 [SLACK_001131] · slack_pm:msg:09515

Date: 2021-06-04 09:43
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen
Topics: Natural origin / zoonotic spillover Wuhan Institute of Virology collaboration

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From the journo Eddie was talking to - "the pangolins WIV was using in CoV studies". Wait, what? Do we know about WIV working in pangolin CoVs in the lab? If so, that's huge - I haven't heard anything about that. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-06-04 at 9.42.11 AM.png]

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Statement	Grade	Attribution	Stance
From the journo Eddie was talking to - "the pangolins WIV was using in CoV studies".	quoted / not their view	quoted_external sentence carries quotation marks	asserts
Do we know about WIV working in pangolin CoVs in the lab?	needs context	speaker_own	questions

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From the journo Eddie was talking to - "the pangolins WIV was using in CoV studies".

quoted / not their view

quoted_external sentence carries quotation marks

asserts

Do we know about WIV working in pangolin CoVs in the lab?

needs context

speaker_own

questions

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2021-06-04 09:14 Robert F. Garry open

This from BBC interview I just did for half the morning. [shared file(s): image.png]
2021-06-04 09:16 Kristian G. Andersen open

Let's hope they don't cut it down to a 10sec sound bite and distort the crap out of it!
2021-06-04 09:21 Robert F. Garry open

Yes - with the proper editing it could probably be made to say: Reinstate the one true President, Donald J. Trump.
2021-06-04 09:43 Kristian G. Andersen

From the journo Eddie was talking to - "the pangolins WIV was using in CoV studies". Wait, what? Do we know about WIV working in pangolin CoVs in the lab? If so, that's huge - I haven't heard anything about that. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-06-04 at 9.42.11 AM.png]
2021-06-04 09:47 Robert F. Garry open

He must be mistaken - maybe he taking about the original pango studies that were reported in 2019 viruses paper. And yes Eddies on some of the pango papers and I think a para flu papers where they are sick with C19-likeillnesses.
2021-06-04 09:48 Kristian G. Andersen open

I think so too - and I just followed up with him about that, plus this. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-06-04 at9.48.17 AM.png]
2021-06-04 09:49 Kristian G. Andersen open

If he can find evidence of pangolins at the Huanan market and link that back to e.g., that wildlife rescue center, holysmokes - I mean, that would be an actual smoking gun. A big one.
2021-06-04 09:49 Kristian G. Andersen open

(a smoking gun for wildlife trade > rescue centers > dead animals > human food chain)

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