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Date
2021-05-27 18:09
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Kristian G. Andersen

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  1. 2021-05-27 18:02 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Bill too? I just don't get it. I really don't. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-05-27 at 5.58.50 PM.png]
  2. 2021-05-27 18:06 Robert F. Garry open
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4524054/
  3. 2021-05-27 18:07 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yeah, she's on that paper, but I don't believe that work is actually hers
  4. 2021-05-27 18:08 Robert F. Garry open
    exacty! In this paper Shi and Baric make a point mutation in the HKU4 spike. Baric did it nit Shi I'm pretty sure and we're talking pseudoviruses which as the name implies are not viruses.
  5. 2021-05-27 18:09 Kristian G. Andersen
    Yup
  6. 2021-05-27 18:15 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Honestly, the NYTimes article makes my blood boil. It's not "we need to consider a lab leak" - I get that and I agree with that. However, it's the false equivalence and the idea that we have no data either way - it's just not true, but I'm pretty damn sure somebody like Marc or Akiko haven't actually looked at any of it. It's just lazy - and dangerous. And where in the article are they discussing the extremely high likelihood that this came in via infected animals? Idon't see any of that - only lab, lab, lab. It's clear that people who say "I'm keeping an open mind" very clearly believe it came from a lab - they're just too afraid to admit it. At least fucking eDim is consistent on that point - I wish the Bloomshitters would be too. This whole "I'm just asking questions" leads to a bottomless well of hypotheticals,which is incredibly unhelpful.
  7. 2021-05-27 18:16 Edward C. Holmes open
    So, a single point mutation. No evidence of "inserting a furin cleavage site"?
  8. 2021-05-27 18:16 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Correct - and it's not her work.
  9. 2021-05-27 18:18 Edward C. Holmes open
    :+1:

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