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[2021-05-27 17:16:48] [Eddie Holmes] I can't believe they published this! If I can show that they did not use FCS then I can embarrass this idiot. [2021-05-27 17:48:56] [Robert Garry] *No relevant priors?* Clive Hamilton is a professor at Charles Sturt University in Canberra and author of Hidden Hand: Exposing How the Chinese Communist Party is Reshaping the World. [2021-05-27 17:56:59] [Kristian Andersen] I don't know of Shi having engineered FCSs - and that article seems like pure fiction, top to bottom, of somebody who's bought into the Wade bullshit. [2021-05-27 17:59:08] [Eddie Holmes] It's a disgrace. [2021-05-27 18:02:48] [Kristian Andersen] Bill too? I just don't get it. I really don't. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-05-27 at 5.58.50 PM.png] [2021-05-27 18:06:34] [Robert Garry] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4524054/ [2021-05-27 18:07:57] [Kristian Andersen] Yeah, she's on that paper, but I don't believe that work is actually hers [2021-05-27 18:08:47] [Robert Garry] exacty! In this paper Shi and Baric make a point mutation in the HKU4 spike. Baric did it nit Shi I'm pretty sure and we're talking pseudoviruses which as the name implies are not viruses. [2021-05-27 18:09:11] [Kristian Andersen] Yup [2021-05-27 18:15:40] [Kristian Andersen] Honestly, the NYTimes article makes my blood boil. It's not "we need to consider a lab leak" - I get that and I agree with that. However, it's the false equivalence and the idea that we have no data either way - it's just not true, but I'm pretty damn sure somebody like Marc or Akiko haven't actually looked at any of it. It's just lazy - and dangerous. And where in the article are they discussing the extremely high likelihood that this came in via infected animals? I don't see any of that - only lab, lab, lab. It's clear that people who say "I'm keeping an open mind" very clearly believe it came from a lab - they're just too afraid to admit it. At least fucking eDim is consistent on that point - I wish the Bloomshitters would be too. This whole "I'm just asking questions" leads to a bottomless well of hypotheticals, which is incredibly unhelpful. [2021-05-27 18:16:14] [Eddie Holmes]