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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.885 [SLACK_001099] · slack_pm:msg:09171

Date: 2021-05-27 15:03
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry

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So what we have is a failed CDC Director speculating in an area of virology he does not understand, A CNN scienceanchor tagging on, two failed exNYTimes authors seeking relevance or just looking for an income stream with abook, a failed Intelligence officer David Asher (who now Batman to Steve Quay's Robin_ who own deputy secretary pulled the plug on the investigation (apparently unbenown to the WSJ, but clear even to Fox), and a couple of oldNobelists also proving they are long past their prime (redeem yourself DB). Mix this with a Republican toxic stew andan few ill-considered Fauci quote. Mix in Angie's opportunists, dilettantes, racist/misogynist assholes, and trolls and shit decisions at the journal call "science" and this is where we're at.

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2021-05-27 14:50 Kristian G. Andersen open

Well, of course it is - only read the first part :wink:
2021-05-27 14:52 Edward C. Holmes open

Which also means that they started the cover-up long before this outbreak became serious
2021-05-27 15:02 Edward C. Holmes open

So, big outbreak at WIV but it's all kept quiet in November. And this cover-up would be going on for even longer ifthey knew back in September and so took their database offline.
2021-05-27 15:02 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yup, that's what happened.
2021-05-27 15:03 Robert F. Garry

So what we have is a failed CDC Director speculating in an area of virology he does not understand, A CNN scienceanchor tagging on, two failed exNYTimes authors seeking relevance or just looking for an income stream with abook, a failed Intelligence officer David Asher (who now Batman to Steve Quay's Robin_ who own deputy secretary pulled the plug on the investigation (apparently unbenown to the WSJ, but clear even to Fox), and a couple of oldNobelists also proving they are long past their prime (redeem yourself DB). Mix this with a Republican toxic stew andan few ill-considered Fauci quote. Mix in Angie's opportunists, dilettantes, racist/misogynist assholes, and trolls and shit decisions at the journal call "science" and this is where we're at.
2021-05-27 15:35 Robert F. Garry open

At this moment probably about as good as it gets from the NYT - it could be worse. [shared file(s): Scientists Don't Want to Ignore the Wuhan 'Lab Leak' Theory, Despite No New Evidence - The New York Times.pdf]
2021-05-27 15:56 Edward C. Holmes open

Not great though. What do you make of this? Surely nobody is reading Yan's report? [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-05-28 at 8.54.53 am.png]
2021-05-27 15:58 Robert F. Garry open

https://cnnphilippines.com/world/2021/5/25/WHO-China-overlooked-data.html Good guy Nick Paton Walsh, CNN also doing some - well - reporting . It relevant to the 2-3 cases from David Ashers "intel" "Leaked documents reported by CNN revealed the flu outbreak in December of 2019, showing a significant spike in Wuhan but also other cities in Hubei at the end of that year. The cause and consequences of the outbreak of influenza-like illnessesremains unclear. The source said the spike showed "there was a large influenza outbreak happening more or less at the same time"as the emergence of the coronavirus. The simultaneous emergence of the influenza outbreak with the first cases ofthe virus "explains the difficulties of identifying Covid cases in December and early January," said the source. Itremains unclear the impact the influenza spike had on detecting the first cases of the novel coronavirus."
2021-05-27 16:00 Edward C. Holmes open

Yes, I might have a chat to Nick.

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