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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.854 [SLACK_001068] · slack_pm:msg:08886

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Date
2021-05-21 17:22
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes
Topics
Wuhan Institute of Virology collaborationLab-leak / accidental release hypothesis

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WIV are in an impossible position: don't release the data and they are accused of hiding it, release it and they are accused of faking it. Having no PCR/antibody positives at the WIV and they are accused of lying, having n = 1 caseat WIV then that would be patient zero.

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WIV are in an impossible position: don't release the data and they are accused of hiding it, release it and they are accused of faking it. own voice, substantive speaker_own asserts
Having no PCR/antibody positives at the WIV and they are accused of lying, having n = 1 caseat WIV then that would be patient zero. quoted / not their view hypothetical conditional framing asserts

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  1. 2021-05-21 17:16 Edward C. Holmes open
    Ah yes, I remember now.
  2. 2021-05-21 17:17 Kristian G. Andersen open
    But yeah - I _could_ have waited ten minutes... Others found the paper before me though
  3. 2021-05-21 17:18 Edward C. Holmes open
    Jonathan Eisen is a stand-up guy on this.
  4. 2021-05-21 17:19 Kristian G. Andersen open
    He is. He's able to keep a cool head.
  5. 2021-05-21 17:22 Edward C. Holmes
    WIV are in an impossible position: don't release the data and they are accused of hiding it, release it and they are accused of faking it. Having no PCR/antibody positives at the WIV and they are accused of lying, having n = 1 caseat WIV then that would be patient zero.

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