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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.821 [SLACK_001035] · slack_pm:msg:08561

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Date
2021-05-16 14:07
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Robert F. Garry
Topics
Gain-of-function researchVaccines

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"No matter what eDim says, this is "unequivocally" *not* gain of function." That's exactly what I told Politifact - not sure what they will come up [prob something like yes chimeric viruses were made but it's not GoF] yeah - simply making a chimeric virus in not GoF. If it was we'd not have J&J, AstroZenica or for that matter a Sputnik C19vaccines. Similar restrictions called for by the GMO crowd would make most gene therapy for cancer illegal andGMO crops would not continue to be be a major force for good in improving food inequities/decreasing pesticideuse.

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"No matter what eDim says, this is "unequivocally" *not* gain of function." That's exactly what I told Politifact - not sure what they will come up [prob something like yes chimeric viruses were made but it's not GoF] yeah - simply making a chimeric virus in not GoF. quoted / not their view quoted_external inside quotation marks questions
If it was we'd not have J&J, AstroZenica or for that matter a Sputnik C19vaccines. quoted / not their view hypothetical conditional framing asserts

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  1. 2021-05-16 13:52 Robert F. Garry open
    Bill G adding to his virological post... Let's just say it's a bit like Angie and Alex C-C greatest hits, but amped up with insights from close to 5 decades of actual virology.
  2. 2021-05-16 14:07 Robert F. Garry
    "No matter what eDim says, this is "unequivocally" *not* gain of function." That's exactly what I told Politifact - not sure what they will come up [prob something like yes chimeric viruses were made but it's not GoF] yeah - simply making a chimeric virus in not GoF. If it was we'd not have J&J, AstroZenica or for that matter a Sputnik C19vaccines. Similar restrictions called for by the GMO crowd would make most gene therapy for cancer illegal andGMO crops would not continue to be be a major force for good in improving food inequities/decreasing pesticideuse.
  3. 2021-05-16 14:15 Edward C. Holmes open
    Excellent point about the vaccines Bob. I look forward to reading Bill's post.
  4. 2021-05-16 14:15 Edward C. Holmes open
    There really needs to be an investigation into eDim.
  5. 2021-05-16 14:29 Robert F. Garry open
    He really is that - well - dim, but it also would not shock me to find out that he's getting paid by the word, tweet and news article citation.

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