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[2021-05-16 12:49:03] [Kristian Andersen] He's such an idiot - no matter what eDim says, this is "unequivocally" *not* gain of function. One bat virus spike protein into a BAC clone of another bat virus - AND the paper even shows those viruses don't infect cells better than wildtype. It's all just very dumb. More red meat for the bloomshitters. [2021-05-16 13:52:37] [Robert Garry] Bill G adding to his virological post... Let's just say it's a bit like Angie and Alex C-C greatest hits, but amped up with insights from close to 5 decades of actual virology. [2021-05-16 14:07:11] [Robert Garry] "No matter what eDim says, this is "unequivocally" *not* gain of function." That's exactly what I told Politifact - not sure what they will come up [prob something like yes chimeric viruses were made but it's not GoF] yeah - simply making a chimeric virus in not GoF. If it was we'd not have J&J, AstroZenica or for that matter a Sputnik C19 vaccines. Similar restrictions called for by the GMO crowd would make most gene therapy for cancer illegal and GMO crops would not continue to be be a major force for good in improving food inequities/decreasing pesticide use. [2021-05-16 14:15:13] [Eddie Holmes] Excellent point about the vaccines Bob. I look forward to reading Bill's post. [2021-05-16 14:15:49] [Eddie Holmes] There really needs to be an investigation into eDim. [2021-05-16 14:29:34] [Robert Garry] He really is that - well - dim, but it also would not shock me to find out that he's getting paid by the word, tweet and news article citation. [2021-05-16 18:43:07] [Eddie Holmes] Bill does not hold back "Senior scientists have ample opportunity to press for re-investigation privately and effectively with a plethora of government officials, without grandstanding in a letter to _Science_. Such unprofessional narcissism on the part of Bloom et al. (5) , that endangers others and foments hostilities among nations, is both irresponsible and deplorable. I hope they enjoyed their day in the sun and one more Science citation on their _curricula vitae_. Alas, fame and press coverage are fleeting, but the damage done is not". [2021-05-16 19:04:05] [Kristian Andersen] Holy smokes [2021-05-16 19:10:23] [Robert Garry] Everything he said is true. He's putting it all out there... [2021-05-16 19:14:26] [Kristian Andersen] I love an old school virologist who doesn't give a fuck. There are a few in NOLA... :wink: [2021-05-16 19:16:33]