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Yeah, reading it now - it really is exactly the same story all over again. Except, more benign virus.

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2021-05-15 17:34 Edward C. Holmes open

HKU-1. 1. Emerged in massive Asian city; 2. Unknown animal origin; 3. Furin cleavage site; 4. Initially associated with pneumonia. Sound familiar?
2021-05-15 17:35 Kristian G. Andersen open

FUCK EDDIE - THAT CAME FROM THE LAB TOO??!!!!!!!!
2021-05-15 17:35 Kristian G. Andersen open

It's the same thing all over again.
2021-05-15 17:36 Edward C. Holmes open

It is! I've mentioned HKU1 in virtually every talk I've given over the last 14 months. Just look at that JVI paper. You could just transpose SARS-CoV-2 for CoV-HKU1.
2021-05-15 17:37 Kristian G. Andersen

Yeah, reading it now - it really is exactly the same story all over again. Except, more benign virus.
2021-05-15 17:38 Kristian G. Andersen open

This is good - because if we can kill the "Wuhan isn't so special", it'll help turn over a lot of people. Would also help ifwe had a good sense of where major labs are.
2021-05-15 17:38 Edward C. Holmes open

Initially a pneumonia patient.
2021-05-15 17:40 Edward C. Holmes open

As there was no major outbreak of pneumonia people lost interest, but it's all there.
2021-05-15 17:41 Kristian G. Andersen open

That's the thing - there's a huge bias towards "something odd here" when things go wrong. But HKU1 is exactly the same - minus severe disease. I can guarantee you that if H1N1 had been worse, the lab leak theory of its origin would also not have gone away.