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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.817 [SLACK_001031] · slack_pm:msg:08517

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Date
2021-05-15 17:29
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Kristian G. Andersen

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So we really need to answer the question - how unusual is Wuhan for something like this to happen? I don't think very unusual - animal markets, top-10 largest city, largest city in central China, etc.

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  1. 2021-05-15 17:15 Edward C. Holmes open
    Right. I'll go over the google doc later today. There's no epidemiological link to the WIV (and people have beensearching night and day for > a year). Simple as that. But there is a direct epidemiological link to an animal market in which CoVs have consistently emerged in the past. There is zero evidence that WIV have any virus that's the direct progenitor of SC2.
  2. 2021-05-15 17:18 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yup
  3. 2021-05-15 17:25 Edward C. Holmes open
    I'll go for a public take down. It will probably go on Youtube so all the parasites will freak out but, frankly, fuck them.
  4. 2021-05-15 17:29 Edward C. Holmes open
    CoV-HKU1 was first described in Shenzhen.
  5. 2021-05-15 17:29 Kristian G. Andersen
    So we really need to answer the question - how unusual is Wuhan for something like this to happen? I don't think very unusual - animal markets, top-10 largest city, largest city in central China, etc.
  6. 2021-05-15 17:29 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Really?
  7. 2021-05-15 17:32 Edward C. Holmes open
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC538593/
  8. 2021-05-15 17:33 Kristian G. Andersen open
    ... and SARS-CoV-1 in Foshan. I mean, these are big places - like Wuhan.
  9. 2021-05-15 17:34 Edward C. Holmes open
    HKU-1. 1. Emerged in massive Asian city; 2. Unknown animal origin; 3. Furin cleavage site; 4. Initially associated with pneumonia. Sound familiar?

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