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Date
2021-05-12 06:42
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chat message · slack
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Kristian G. Andersen
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Robert F. Garry
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Gain-of-function research

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@Kristian Andersen https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4797993/ This paper came up in the Rand Paul-Toni Fauci debate yesterday. It's not GoF research, but yes they made cimeric viruses using a mouse-adaptedSC1.

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  1. 2021-05-12 06:18 Robert F. Garry open
    Reminds me of some of the steampunk art by Sharon Isern - she's done some work with @Kristian Andersen and myself. [shared file(s): image.png]
  2. 2021-05-12 06:28 Kristian G. Andersen open
    @Kristian Andersen Important background - thanks.
  3. 2021-05-12 06:34 Robert F. Garry open
    Big storm in NOLA Last night - no power etc. Several levels of response to Worobey et al. possible. 1. Simple - thanks for reaching out - look forward to an actual "dispassionate science-based discussion" of the issues. 2. @Kristian Andersen more detailed but still direct response, which is excellent. 3. Simple + Addressing @Andrew Rambaut salient point. "I think possibly pressing the idea that they are alleging a conspiracy and cover up. Obviously they may have been but there is no evidence of one so they are essentially libelling people. If there was aconspiracy and cover up then getting access to the lab won't help because there was a cover-up." Perhaps phrasingit as a question: You do realize that you are accusing some of the best virologists on the planet of a massive conspiracy and cover-up? 4. Some combo of the above or 5. No response - and yes they should be ashamed per @Eddie Holmes.
  4. 2021-05-12 06:42 Robert F. Garry
    @Kristian Andersen https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4797993/ This paper came up in the Rand Paul-Toni Fauci debate yesterday. It's not GoF research, but yes they made cimeric viruses using a mouse-adaptedSC1.
  5. 2021-05-12 06:55 Robert F. Garry open
    @Kristian Andersen embarrassing because they (Jennifer Sills) also edited it.
  6. 2021-05-12 07:01 Robert F. Garry open
    @Eddie Holmes https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2112-intelligence-community-statem ent-on-origins-of-covid-19 Sad that Science gives life to RelBloomshit but could not find the time to report on this.

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