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[Andrew Rambaut] I want to make one [2021-05-12 06:18:28] [Robert Garry] Reminds me of some of the steampunk art by Sharon Isern - she's done some work with @Kristian Andersen and myself. [shared file(s): image.png] [2021-05-12 06:28:55] [Kristian Andersen] [thread - ID: 2021-05-11 22:16:35] @Kristian Andersen Important background - thanks. [2021-05-12 06:34:09] [Robert Garry] Big storm in NOLA Last night - no power etc. Several levels of response to Worobey et al. possible. 1. Simple - thanks for reaching out - look forward to an actual "dispassionate science-based discussion" of the issues. 2. @Kristian Andersen more detailed but still direct response, which is excellent. 3. Simple + Addressing @Andrew Rambaut salient point. "I think possibly pressing the idea that they are alleging a conspiracy and cover up. Obviously they may have been but there is no evidence of one so they are essentially libelling people. If there was a conspiracy and cover up then getting access to the lab won't help because there was a cover-up." Perhaps phrasing it as a question: You do realize that you are accusing some of the best virologists on the planet of a massive conspiracy and cover-up? 4. Some combo of the above or 5. No response - and yes they should be ashamed per @Eddie Holmes. [2021-05-12 06:42:45] [Robert Garry] [thread - ID: 2021-05-11 21:43:16] @Kristian Andersen https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4797993/ This paper came up in the Rand Paul-Toni Fauci debate yesterday. It's not GoF research, but yes they made cimeric viruses using a mouse-adapted SC1. [2021-05-12 06:55:33] [Robert Garry] [thread - ID: 2021-05-11 17:11:19] @Kristian Andersen embarrassing because they (Jennifer Sills) also edited it. [2021-05-12 07:01:13] [Robert Garry] [thread - ID: 2021-05-12 02:16:59] @Eddie Holmes https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2112-intelligence-community-statem ent-on-origins-of-covid-19 Sad that Science gives life to RelBloomshit but could not find the time to report on this. [2021-05-12 10:27:07] [Kristian Andersen] Early draft that'll likely change - but lemme know suggested edits / ideas. Dear Mike, Thanks for the heads up - much appreciated. We are well aware of the upcoming letter and I was somewhat amused to see that one of your signatories include a person who vehemently attacked me when I suggested we needed to take a potential lab leak seriously back in February, 2020 - the reason why the _"Standing Committee on Emerging Infectious Diseases and 21st Century Health Threats"_ that David and I sit on was established. Unlike what is claimed in your letter, we have of course learned a lot since the beginning of the pandemic and no evidence has been uncovered to support any connection to the lab - which remains a speculative theory that would