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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.762 [SLACK_000976] · slack_pm:msg:07979

Date: 2021-05-07 16:50
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Edward C. Holmes
Topics: Intelligence community assessments

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Good points on the VOC/VOI stuff. I think the WHO proposal is simply about politics, particularly trying to avoid the association with particular places (which the press will totally ignore). The greek names is ok I guess and not afocanuba. All a bit pointless.

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I think the WHO proposal is simply about politics, particularly trying to avoid the association with particular places (which the press will totally ignore).	needs context	uncertain explicit hedge	asserts

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I think the WHO proposal is simply about politics, particularly trying to avoid the association with particular places (which the press will totally ignore).

needs context

uncertain explicit hedge

asserts

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2021-05-07 16:47 Edward C. Holmes open

I tried, but it made me so angry that I could literally feel my blood pressure begin to rise to dangerous levels so I hadto stop. I just can't read this shit otherwise it will kill me. Baltimore's quote is hilarious. I bet he was on the phone with Jesse.
2021-05-07 16:49 Kristian G. Andersen open

I'm honestly laughing reading this - it's completely absurd.
2021-05-07 16:49 Kristian G. Andersen open

It's dangerous though - I mean: [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-05-07 at 4.48.22 PM.png]
2021-05-07 16:50 Kristian G. Andersen open

shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-05-07 at 4.49.59 PM.png
2021-05-07 16:50 Edward C. Holmes

Good points on the VOC/VOI stuff. I think the WHO proposal is simply about politics, particularly trying to avoid the association with particular places (which the press will totally ignore). The greek names is ok I guess and not afocanuba. All a bit pointless.
2021-05-07 16:50 Kristian G. Andersen open

And, of course, this (too long for screen shot...) [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-05-07 at 4.50.27 PM.png]
2021-05-07 16:52 Kristian G. Andersen open

@Robert Garry - I think it might be worth reaching out to GVN to see if they want to respond to this. I can't take the lead on something like this, but it's quite serious when a journalist as high profile as Wade (despite him being anidiot) is calling for people to "blame" virologists for the COVID-19 pandemic. It's shocking, frankly.
2021-05-07 16:56 Edward C. Holmes open

Perhaps ASM/ASV would be better. Need to avoid the response from the loose-knit community. There's so much hate in Wade's article it's hard to know where to begin.
2021-05-07 17:02 Kristian G. Andersen open

True. Might also just be better to leave it - it's shockingly hateful. I'm wondering if I should ping Jesse to warn him about this article since his Science commentary will be mixed upwith Wade's article AND Jesse may well not read the Wade piece in detail and not realize what it actually says.

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