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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.756 [SLACK_000970] · slack_pm:msg:07917

Date: 2021-05-06 19:59
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Edward C. Holmes
Topics: Wuhan Institute of Virology collaboration Intelligence community assessments

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More from Daszak. I'm not sure if I'm comforted by the 15,000 bat samples in the freezer: "I keep making the point that the US taxpayer paid for us to collect 15,000+ bat samples that are now in freezers in Wuhan, and because ofthis fake cold-war we can't officially control the work on them. Zhengli's doing the right thing - we're acting just likewe were when the NIH grant was up and running, but if they decided not to answer my emails or wechats, we've gotno leverage. Dumb politics."

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I'm not sure if I'm comforted by the 15,000 bat samples in the freezer: "I keep making the point that the US taxpayer paid for us to collect 15,000+ bat samples that are now in freezers in Wuhan, and because ofthis fake cold-war we can't officially control the work on them.	needs context	uncertain explicit hedge	questions
Zhengli's doing the right thing - we're acting just likewe were when the NIH grant was up and running, but if they decided not to answer my emails or wechats, we've gotno leverage.	quoted / not their view	quoted_external inside quotation marks	asserts

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I'm not sure if I'm comforted by the 15,000 bat samples in the freezer: "I keep making the point that the US taxpayer paid for us to collect 15,000+ bat samples that are now in freezers in Wuhan, and because ofthis fake cold-war we can't officially control the work on them.

needs context

uncertain explicit hedge

questions

Zhengli's doing the right thing - we're acting just likewe were when the NIH grant was up and running, but if they decided not to answer my emails or wechats, we've gotno leverage.

quoted / not their view

quoted_external inside quotation marks

asserts

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2021-05-06 18:38 Edward C. Holmes open

Next to my Yunnan elephant [shared file(s): IMG_1633.JPG]
2021-05-06 18:59 Robert F. Garry open

Looks great Eddie!
2021-05-06 19:00 Edward C. Holmes open

It's great! Thanks so much.
2021-05-06 19:14 Kristian G. Andersen open

Haha. Now, put that CCP award next to it and we have a perfect setup.
2021-05-06 19:59 Edward C. Holmes

More from Daszak. I'm not sure if I'm comforted by the 15,000 bat samples in the freezer: "I keep making the point that the US taxpayer paid for us to collect 15,000+ bat samples that are now in freezers in Wuhan, and because ofthis fake cold-war we can't officially control the work on them. Zhengli's doing the right thing - we're acting just likewe were when the NIH grant was up and running, but if they decided not to answer my emails or wechats, we've gotno leverage. Dumb politics."
2021-05-06 20:09 Kristian G. Andersen open

15,000 bat samples in the freezer.... Awesome. :wink:
2021-05-06 20:10 Kristian G. Andersen open

Also - just found this oldie but goodie. I believe the likes of eDim and Alina have forced me into a more extreme position.... Which I'll continue to defend! :punch:https://andersenlab.slack.com/archives/GTGL6LY5C/p1591918962047400
2021-05-06 20:18 Edward C. Holmes open

I remember that well! By the way, there are no prior publications of Shi using FCSs are there? So, if this were from the lab it would their first use on the mystery virus they've told no one about.
2021-05-06 20:23 Kristian G. Andersen open

I don't think so - that's kinda what I'm trying to figure out...

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