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Date
2021-04-01 05:03
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Robert F. Garry
Topics
Natural origin / zoonotic spilloverProximal Origin paperAwards, honoraria and recognitionLab-leak / accidental release hypothesis

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Just in time for April Fools Day - The Third Yan Report. Here's the interesting bit: "Contrary to the reviewer'scomment, we have clearly specified conflict of interests of individuals involved in publishing the unfounded opinion piece, "The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2"15. Specifically, among these authors, Dr. Ian Lipkin has been working with the CCP government since 2003. He has been honored by the CCP government with several prestigiousawards17,18, including one given to him in January 202017,not too long before the publication of his misleading Nature Medicine opinion piece. *Dr. Edward Holmes*, another co-author of this article, has also been working closely with the CCP laboratories, including publishing two articles reporting fabricated pangolin coronaviruses and the RmYN02 bat coronavirus, respectively9,13. It is noteworthy that two publications of fabricated pangolin coronaviruses (only one of them involves Holmes) were done in collaboration with scientists from the Academy ofMilitary Medical Sciences (AMMS)9,11,19,20. Dr. Holmes also holds two visiting/guest professor positions in China, one at Fudan University and the other at the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention21. These conflictsof interests are factual and substantial. In addition, this influential Nature Medicine publication relied heavily on thefabricated viruses to form its argument for a natural origin of SARS-CoV-215. It is both appropriate and necessary toexclude it in any valid analysis of the origin of SARS-CoV-2." [shared file(s): Combined_responses_1 (1).pdf]

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Here's the interesting bit: "Contrary to the reviewer'scomment, we have clearly specified conflict of interests of individuals involved in publishing the unfounded opinion piece, "The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2"15. quoted / not their view quoted_external sentence carries quotation marks denies
He has been honored by the CCP government with several prestigiousawards17,18, including one given to him in January 202017,not too long before the publication of his misleading Nature Medicine opinion piece. *Dr. quoted / not their view quoted_external inside quotation marks asserts
Edward Holmes*, another co-author of this article, has also been working closely with the CCP laboratories, including publishing two articles reporting fabricated pangolin coronaviruses and the RmYN02 bat coronavirus, respectively9,13. quoted / not their view quoted_external inside quotation marks asserts
It is noteworthy that two publications of fabricated pangolin coronaviruses (only one of them involves Holmes) were done in collaboration with scientists from the Academy ofMilitary Medical Sciences (AMMS)9,11,19,20. quoted / not their view quoted_external inside quotation marks asserts

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  1. 2021-04-01 05:03 Robert F. Garry
    Just in time for April Fools Day - The Third Yan Report. Here's the interesting bit: "Contrary to the reviewer'scomment, we have clearly specified conflict of interests of individuals involved in publishing the unfounded opinion piece, "The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2"15. Specifically, among these authors, Dr. Ian Lipkin has been working with the CCP government since 2003. He has been honored by the CCP government with several prestigiousawards17,18, including one given to him in January 202017,not too long before the publication of his misleading Nature Medicine opinion piece. *Dr. Edward Holmes*, another co-author of this article, has also been working closely with the CCP laboratories, including publishing two articles reporting fabricated pangolin coronaviruses and the RmYN02 bat coronavirus, respectively9,13. It is noteworthy that two publications of fabricated pangolin coronaviruses (only one of them involves Holmes) were done in collaboration with scientists from the Academy ofMilitary Medical Sciences (AMMS)9,11,19,20. Dr. Holmes also holds two visiting/guest professor positions in China, one at Fudan University and the other at the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention21. These conflictsof interests are factual and substantial. In addition, this influential Nature Medicine publication relied heavily on thefabricated viruses to form its argument for a natural origin of SARS-CoV-215. It is both appropriate and necessary toexclude it in any valid analysis of the origin of SARS-CoV-2." [shared file(s): Combined_responses_1 (1).pdf]
  2. 2021-04-01 05:06 Andrew Rambaut open
    Shame they didn't focus on the butt lesions
  3. 2021-04-01 05:10 Robert F. Garry open
    BTW @Kristian Andersen is killing it re the nonYan report on that social media platform. Keep it up! The ref to Alina's paper was gold!
  4. 2021-04-01 05:22 Robert F. Garry open
    And to Kristian's tweets, "The Rooting Problem" is something we talked about before - even going back to one of Eddie's first Aussie seminar's. The fact that A and/or B show up in different markets is important.
  5. 2021-04-01 05:58 Robert F. Garry open
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00877-4

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