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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.657 [SLACK_000871] · slack_pm:msg:06880

Date: 2021-03-29 20:40
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Edward C. Holmes
Topics: Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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Good questions My take on the whole thing is that they clearly think there's an intermediate host and they are holding up the marketas an example of the trade that leads to this transmission Daszak clearly thinks it the market which is why he sent me the video There's a lot on the market in the main doc - 2 journos told me they had the same impression

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Good questions My take on the whole thing is that they clearly think there's an intermediate host and they are holding up the marketas an example of the trade that leads to this transmission Daszak clearly thinks it the market which is why he sent me the video There's a lot on the market in the main doc - 2 journos told me they had the same impression	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts

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2021-03-29 20:31 Edward C. Holmes open

Interesting
2021-03-29 20:31 Kristian G. Andersen open

I don't suppose they looked into movement patterns? It's sorta interesting that cases South-East have no connectionto the market, while North-West do.
2021-03-29 20:32 Kristian G. Andersen open

If only we had timing on these cases... Where are the early cases? South-East or North-West of the river?
2021-03-29 20:34 Kristian G. Andersen open

Seems like North-West also primarily residential - at least from what I can get from Google Maps (naming of the districts within the city). [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-29 at 8.33.14 PM.png]
2021-03-29 20:40 Edward C. Holmes

Good questions My take on the whole thing is that they clearly think there's an intermediate host and they are holding up the marketas an example of the trade that leads to this transmission Daszak clearly thinks it the market which is why he sent me the video There's a lot on the market in the main doc - 2 journos told me they had the same impression
2021-03-29 20:44 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yeah, I get the sense that the Chinese are trying to deflect as much as possible away from the market, not being concerned with the lab leak because they know it didn't come from there. But it certainly isn't helping - the market,by far, seems like the most logical explanation.
2021-03-29 20:47 Edward C. Holmes open

That's it!! Both Daszak and Dominic told me the same - they don't like the market link because it makes them look'dirty' and undermines their culture
2021-03-29 20:48 Edward C. Holmes open

Also, if Shi is lying so is Daszak and that would take monumental cajones
2021-03-29 20:49 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yeah, I think they're concerned about potential "wild animal" farming and how that might have led to this - presumably big industry.

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