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Date: 2021-03-26 10:39
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry
Topics: Proximal Origin paper

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Agreed - but to your point about "let him do exactly that" - if fact - he already did it whether or not it gets into the 60Minutes piece. No doubt there will be opportunities to make the appropriate points since this whole Proximal Origins thing is not leaving the news cycles anytime soon.

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2021-03-26 09:20 Robert F. Garry open

FROM 60 minBob, Thank you for your note. I assure you that neither Jamie Metzl nor anyone else in our piece alleges that the virus isthe product of a bioweapons program. You should also know that we interview Peter Daszak at length in oursegment about the animal to human pathway hypothesis that the WHO-led team has concluded is most likely. RICH
2021-03-26 09:52 Robert F. Garry open

Rich, After listening to Shi's seminar, hearing Metzl's question to Shi and his follow-up quotes I'm still very concerned about the direction that Metzl is taking the "debate." However, it's good know that there is balance from Peter Daszak. And, I believe the WHO report actually will reset the conversation, despite the best efforts of Metzl and others todismiss the report before it appears. Best, Bob G
2021-03-26 09:53 Robert F. Garry open

That's the best I can do.
2021-03-26 10:33 Kristian G. Andersen open

Good effort Bob - they're going with the false equivalence of course, but there's not much you can do to counter that with people like Lipsitch coming out saying it's fair game. Jamie though... Why they interview him in particular, I don't know - he's exceptionally stupid.
2021-03-26 10:39 Robert F. Garry

Agreed - but to your point about "let him do exactly that" - if fact - he already did it whether or not it gets into the 60Minutes piece. No doubt there will be opportunities to make the appropriate points since this whole Proximal Origins thing is not leaving the news cycles anytime soon.
2021-03-26 10:41 Kristian G. Andersen open

My concern with 60 mins is that they might well edit the interview to make him look sane and insightful. That'd be amissed opportunity.
2021-03-26 10:42 Robert F. Garry open

I was trying to avoid that - I suspect they are still editing the piece - hence my email to Rich Bonin.
2021-03-26 10:59 Kristian G. Andersen open

@Andrew Rambaut - have you guys looked into this new variant some more? I don't understand all the mutations in ORF1ab - it seems very peculiar. Limited overlap with previous variants too.
2021-03-26 11:36 Andrew Rambaut open

Recombinant?

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