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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.616 [SLACK_000830] · slack_pm:msg:06436

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Date
2021-03-22 12:40
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Kristian G. Andersen
Topics
Lab-leak / accidental release hypothesis

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shared file(s): Re: wondering if you have any further thoughts about the lab origin idea

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shared file(s): Re: wondering if you have any further thoughts about the lab origin idea needs context speaker_own questions

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  1. 2021-03-22 12:34 Edward C. Holmes open
    I spoke to Dominic and he said that China are pushing back against the report hence the delay. ML has been lab escape from Day 1...in fact, he was one of the people that pushed Jeremy into contacting me last January.
  2. 2021-03-22 12:40 Kristian G. Andersen open
    shared file(s): Re: Coronavirus research in China
  3. 2021-03-22 12:40 Robert F. Garry open
    Not surprising that China is pushing back. Tedros probably made them put lab origins "must be investigated" or language to that effect.
  4. 2021-03-22 12:40 Kristian G. Andersen open
    shared file(s): Re: 2019-nCoV
  5. 2021-03-22 12:40 Kristian G. Andersen
    shared file(s): Re: wondering if you have any further thoughts about the lab origin idea
  6. 2021-03-22 12:41 Kristian G. Andersen open
    shared file(s): Re: Fact-checking 22 Feb. New York Post article claiming the coronavirus leaked from a lab
  7. 2021-03-22 12:45 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Had some back and forth with Marc on this early least year :point_up_2:. Civil - but a lot of the stuff he discussed about the WIV research was naive (e.g., not realizing that pseudotyped viruses don't constitute a risk, not knowing many of these viruses are replication incompetent, etc.). Too much naiveté going on (from many, many scientists), which is really pissing me off. It's starting to look like Iraq WMD, but this time driven, not by generals (they already concluded it didn't come from the lab), but political pundits and scientists. Troubling - at least the latter category should know better. I mean -Jesse Bloom just tweeted an article about covert bioweapons programs!!! And look at the people who chime in inagreement - it's shocking.
  8. 2021-03-22 12:59 Edward C. Holmes open
    Yes, the Chinese military gets an academic institution in Wuhan which has a load of international experts advise onthe construction of a BSL4 lab construct a bioweapon on a random bat coronavirus and let them publish on related viruses. That's definitely what happened.
  9. 2021-03-22 13:03 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yes, definitely, and also, there's an A in both Wuh*a*n and L*a*b - I mean, what ARE the odds?? Lab leak = only logical conclusion based on available evidence.

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