Private channel session 1139

18 messages over 1h 23m, 2021-03-22 – 2021-03-22.

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1. 2021-03-22 12:34 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.615
   I spoke to Dominic and he said that China are pushing back against the report hence the delay. ML has been lab escape from Day 1...in fact, he was one of the people that pushed Jeremy into contacting me last January.
2. 2021-03-22 12:40 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.616
   shared file(s): Re: Coronavirus research in China
3. 2021-03-22 12:40 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.616
   Not surprising that China is pushing back. Tedros probably made them put lab origins "must be investigated" or language to that effect.
4. 2021-03-22 12:40 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.616
   shared file(s): Re: 2019-nCoV
5. 2021-03-22 12:40 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.616
   shared file(s): Re: wondering if you have any further thoughts about the lab origin idea
6. 2021-03-22 12:41 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.616
   shared file(s): Re: Fact-checking 22 Feb. New York Post article claiming the coronavirus leaked from a lab
7. 2021-03-22 12:45 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.616
   Had some back and forth with Marc on this early least year :point_up_2:. Civil - but a lot of the stuff he discussed about the WIV research was naive (e.g., not realizing that pseudotyped viruses don't constitute a risk, not knowing many of these viruses are replication incompetent, etc.). Too much naiveté going on (from many, many scientists), which is really pissing me off. It's starting to look like Iraq WMD, but this time driven, not by generals (they already concluded it didn't come from the lab), but political pundits and scientists. Troubling - at least the latter category should know better. I mean -Jesse Bloom just tweeted an article about covert bioweapons programs!!! And look at the people who chime in inagreement - it's shocking.
8. 2021-03-22 12:59 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.616
   Yes, the Chinese military gets an academic institution in Wuhan which has a load of international experts advise onthe construction of a BSL4 lab construct a bioweapon on a random bat coronavirus and let them publish on related viruses. That's definitely what happened.
9. 2021-03-22 13:03 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.616
   Yes, definitely, and also, there's an A in both Wuh*a*n and L*a*b - I mean, what ARE the odds?? Lab leak = only logical conclusion based on available evidence.
10. 2021-03-22 13:06 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.616
    And in sArs! Spooky.
11. 2021-03-22 13:08 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.616
    SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12. 2021-03-22 13:13 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.616
    Secret And Risky Science - CoVert
13. 2021-03-22 13:14 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.617
    That pretty much nails it Eddie!
14. 2021-03-22 13:17 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.617
    Weaponising Infectious Viruses
15. 2021-03-22 13:17 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.617
    It's all there if you look hard enough!
16. 2021-03-22 13:18 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.617
    Right before our eyes all this time!
17. 2021-03-22 13:55 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.617
    decent reporting:https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3126473/jitters-china-who-counts-down-covid-19 -origins-report-release
18. 2021-03-22 13:58 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.617
    Yes, Simone is sensible.