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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.615 [SLACK_000829] · slack_pm:msg:06424

Date: 2021-03-22 09:39
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry
Topics: Wuhan Institute of Virology collaboration

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!channel It gets worse: [shared file(s): Opinion _ Did covid-19 escape from a Wuhan lab_ The WHO report can't bethe final word. - The Washington Post.pdf]

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!channel It gets worse: [shared file(s): Opinion _ Did covid-19 escape from a Wuhan lab_ The WHO report can't bethe final word. - The Washington Post.pdf]	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts

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!channel It gets worse: [shared file(s): Opinion _ Did covid-19 escape from a Wuhan lab_ The WHO report can't bethe final word. - The Washington Post.pdf]

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2021-03-22 08:01 Kristian G. Andersen open

Mixing up the two is deeply problematic - the NIH was asking me about this too a year ago and I made it clear that now wasn't the time to reignite the GOF debate since people get confused. I'm not sure even Marc understands the difference between GOF and basic research, but I'm sure he considers everything that went on at the WIV to beGOF (it's not - most GOF has been done in Baric's lab).
2021-03-22 08:01 Kristian G. Andersen open

"most, if not all"
2021-03-22 08:48 Robert F. Garry open

Actually it *IS* about conspiracy theories and China-bashing. The China-bashing is literally getting Asian-American'skilled. For the antiGoF [yes it should be vetted and monitored, which it is] and antiBSL-3/4 [you bet they areregulated] crowd this is all about stirring up the pot again and reviving arguments that they lost. [shared file(s): image.png]
2021-03-22 08:55 Robert F. Garry open

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n742.full
2021-03-22 09:39 Robert F. Garry

!channel It gets worse: [shared file(s): Opinion _ Did covid-19 escape from a Wuhan lab_ The WHO report can't bethe final word. - The Washington Post.pdf]
2021-03-22 10:08 Kristian G. Andersen open

Twitter is on fire with scientists pushing for the lab leak theory too. Unlike everybody else, we can just sit and wait for that report and then amplify the message...
2021-03-22 10:20 Kristian G. Andersen open

".... deserves intelligent discussion" [Links to tweet about bioweapons programs] [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-22 at 10.17.02.png]
2021-03-22 10:23 Andrew Rambaut open

Major mistake by WHO not getting that report out
2021-03-22 10:46 Robert F. Garry open

Crap and bullshit are hard to counter with calm dispassionate science. Very disappointed that when faced with Alina's wall of crazy and it's DISINFORMATION that Jessie shrugs and calls discussion of SC2 as a "vaccine for abioweapon" "deserved intelligent discussion." This is playing with fire. Move beyond politics my ass. If Trump were still President there is a very good chance - based on today's discussion and editorials in two major US"newspapers" that he and Pompeo would have already started military action against China.

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