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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.589 [SLACK_000803] · slack_pm:msg:06161

Date: 2021-03-12 12:22
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Edward C. Holmes
Topics: Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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Had a chat to Linfa and it seems he has more positive pangolins. He's going to run his VirScan-like assays on Tommy's. I think we have 7 positive animals. Of course, that bats may be passing the virus to pangolins does nearly show that virus jump between species in nature. Who would have thought!!

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Had a chat to Linfa and it seems he has more positive pangolins.	needs context	uncertain explicit hedge	asserts
Of course, that bats may be passing the virus to pangolins does nearly show that virus jump between species in nature.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts

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Had a chat to Linfa and it seems he has more positive pangolins.

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Of course, that bats may be passing the virus to pangolins does nearly show that virus jump between species in nature.

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2021-03-12 12:00 Robert F. Garry open

"A total of 23 different bat species were tested in this study (Table S1). Samples were 619 collected between May2019 and November 2020 from Mengla County, Yunnan Province in southern China (101.271563 E, 21.918897 N;101.220091 E, 21.593202 621 N and 101.297471 E, 21.920934 N). The Xishuangbanna Tropical Botanical Garden has an ethics committee that provided permission for trapping and bat surveys within 623 this study." @Eddie Holmes do you happen to have Table S1 from Zhou2021? OR a month and year when RpYN06 and RsYN06 were collected. Updating Holmes 2021 figs etc.
2021-03-12 12:18 Edward C. Holmes open

I'll email them all to you Bob - I'll just make a cup of tea...as long as turning on the kettle is not deemed too dangerous
2021-03-12 12:22 Edward C. Holmes

Had a chat to Linfa and it seems he has more positive pangolins. He's going to run his VirScan-like assays on Tommy's. I think we have 7 positive animals. Of course, that bats may be passing the virus to pangolins does nearly show that virus jump between species in nature. Who would have thought!!
2021-03-12 12:27 Robert F. Garry open

Thanks Eddie. I understand that bats etc live in Sri Lanka and other tea growing countries - so yes better to curtailthat overly risky activity going forward. Agreed the pango story is an interesting one on many levels - lots ofimportant CoV evolution and ecology to sort. That is unless the Parisites have their way and all this threateningvirology is stopped.
2021-03-12 12:33 Edward C. Holmes open

You're right! I had better stick to coffee...oh no, civets shit coffee beans!!!
2021-03-12 12:38 Edward C. Holmes open

I post this because it is pretty instructive.
2021-03-12 12:51 Robert F. Garry open

Also consistent with another conspiracy theory - all the world's leading virologists (and a few politicians) areshape-shifting space aliens from the future.

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