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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.569 [SLACK_000783] · slack_pm:msg:05946

Date: 2021-03-05 14:10
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry

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As for the Paris group I think Kristian said it - let them put their "science" out in the sunlight. There it will die like other conspiracy theories. Oh and there was a Nature podcast - a bit of Bullocks.https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00599-7 Amy should have mentioned all the PO1 authors besideKristian and me, but other than that a good job. Heartwarmingly, it did cause Alina to throw her rattle out of the pramagain. Alina is really quite dishonest - twisting up a bunch of stuff that was said to fit her own priors. For ex: Amy never said the Thai bat spike was the most similar to SC2 spike just that is is similar, which of course is true and apoint of Holmes2021.

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2021-03-05 13:32 Edward C. Holmes open

Here's an interesting factoid. All Weifeng's new bat viruses, as well as RmYN01 and RmYN02, were collected from this location. Just shows the amazing amount of diversity of these viruses in nature and the sheer difficulty of finding bat zero: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xishuangbanna_Tropical_Botanical_Garden
2021-03-05 13:44 Edward C. Holmes open

And these were not collected from caves, but from a botanical garden where lots of tourists go
2021-03-05 14:00 Robert F. Garry open

Thanks Eddie - I really need to get out more often - looks like a beautiful place....
2021-03-05 14:04 Edward C. Holmes open

And the point being that bats and their viruses are everywhere - we can't stop exposure
2021-03-05 14:10 Robert F. Garry

As for the Paris group I think Kristian said it - let them put their "science" out in the sunlight. There it will die like other conspiracy theories. Oh and there was a Nature podcast - a bit of Bullocks.https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00599-7 Amy should have mentioned all the PO1 authors besideKristian and me, but other than that a good job. Heartwarmingly, it did cause Alina to throw her rattle out of the pramagain. Alina is really quite dishonest - twisting up a bunch of stuff that was said to fit her own priors. For ex: Amy never said the Thai bat spike was the most similar to SC2 spike just that is is similar, which of course is true and apoint of Holmes2021.
2021-03-05 14:19 Kristian G. Andersen open

Bob, coincidence you and I are implicated in both? I think not... :man_in_business_suit_levitating: [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-05 at 2.18.18 PM.png]
2021-03-05 14:22 Robert F. Garry open

Yeah - probably not a coincidence - pretty damn scary actually....
2021-03-05 14:26 Edward C. Holmes open

And Andrew and I were involved in the HIV polio vaccine origin stuff. It all adds up....
2021-03-05 14:27 Robert F. Garry open

Just connect the dots..........................

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