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Date
2021-03-05 14:04
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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And the point being that bats and their viruses are everywhere - we can't stop exposure

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  1. 2021-03-05 13:12 Edward C. Holmes open
    Paris Group = Great Barrington Agreement II.
  2. 2021-03-05 13:32 Edward C. Holmes open
    Here's an interesting factoid. All Weifeng's new bat viruses, as well as RmYN01 and RmYN02, were collected from this location. Just shows the amazing amount of diversity of these viruses in nature and the sheer difficulty of finding bat zero: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xishuangbanna_Tropical_Botanical_Garden
  3. 2021-03-05 13:44 Edward C. Holmes open
    And these were not collected from caves, but from a botanical garden where lots of tourists go
  4. 2021-03-05 14:00 Robert F. Garry open
    Thanks Eddie - I really need to get out more often - looks like a beautiful place....
  5. 2021-03-05 14:04 Edward C. Holmes
    And the point being that bats and their viruses are everywhere - we can't stop exposure
  6. 2021-03-05 14:10 Robert F. Garry open
    As for the Paris group I think Kristian said it - let them put their "science" out in the sunlight. There it will die like other conspiracy theories. Oh and there was a Nature podcast - a bit of Bullocks.https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00599-7 Amy should have mentioned all the PO1 authors besideKristian and me, but other than that a good job. Heartwarmingly, it did cause Alina to throw her rattle out of the pramagain. Alina is really quite dishonest - twisting up a bunch of stuff that was said to fit her own priors. For ex: Amy never said the Thai bat spike was the most similar to SC2 spike just that is is similar, which of course is true and apoint of Holmes2021.
  7. 2021-03-05 14:19 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Bob, coincidence you and I are implicated in both? I think not... :man_in_business_suit_levitating: [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-05 at 2.18.18 PM.png]
  8. 2021-03-05 14:22 Robert F. Garry open
    Yeah - probably not a coincidence - pretty damn scary actually....
  9. 2021-03-05 14:26 Edward C. Holmes open
    And Andrew and I were involved in the HIV polio vaccine origin stuff. It all adds up....

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