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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.537 [SLACK_000751] · slack_pm:msg:05589

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Date
2021-02-21 15:35
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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The Chan/Petrosky analysis was that dn/ds suggested that there was NO adaptation to humans. This shows otherwise. We know that this mutation is fixed in all the human samples studied to date, but we don't know about any chains of transmission that died out.

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  1. 2021-02-21 15:20 Kristian G. Andersen open
    (and yeah - dN/dS is shit. Just no point).
  2. 2021-02-21 15:23 Edward C. Holmes open
    I can certainly see that Doug & Phil increased transmissibility, but that does not explain why B.1.1.7 et al.,which arose later, are doing so well. That may have arisen through an intra-host advantage, but it's obvious that they have an epidemiological scale advantage as well. Clearly they have increased fitness which can only be due to (i)increased transmissibilty in itself....which suggests that there should other key mutations in ORF1ab (?) and/or (ii)immune evasion that enables more refection and hence increases R. Perhaps that deletion in nsp6 is the key?
  3. 2021-02-21 15:24 Edward C. Holmes open
    Are there *proportionately* more chronic infections? Do we know their overall frequency?
  4. 2021-02-21 15:27 Edward C. Holmes open
    Definitely needs to be set out here.
  5. 2021-02-21 15:35 Edward C. Holmes
    The Chan/Petrosky analysis was that dn/ds suggested that there was NO adaptation to humans. This shows otherwise. We know that this mutation is fixed in all the human samples studied to date, but we don't know about any chains of transmission that died out.
  6. 2021-02-21 15:43 Andrew Rambaut open
    Hmm. Not sure about this paper - they are using software for detecting genomic selective sweeps using LD, I think.
  7. 2021-02-21 15:43 Edward C. Holmes open
    But they do then do experimental assays to confirm these computational results. I can't judge how good these are. The bottom-line that there has been a continual adaptive process.
  8. 2021-02-21 15:49 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yeah, the sweep analyses are shit - can't do that in viral genomes, only sexually reproducing organisms. That said, they DID come across a very very interesting mutation (by chance?) and the experimental data is good
  9. 2021-02-21 15:53 Edward C. Holmes open
    Yes, it's the experimental data that is interesting.

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