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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.499 [SLACK_000713] · slack_pm:msg:05206

Date: 2021-02-08 12:31
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry
Topics: Gain-of-function research Lab-leak / accidental release hypothesis

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Just listened to some of the Alina podcast. She's vacuous, but also cleverly evasive. I am coming around [OK I'm already at] to Andrew's point that they really need to be boxed into a corner and made to come up with somespecifics. Most important is that you need a very close relative (99% or better) to get to SARS-CoV-2 by any sort ofGOF research. Also blow up the notion that lab origins is not a conspiracy theory. It is.

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Statement	Grade	Attribution	Stance
Most important is that you need a very close relative (99% or better) to get to SARS-CoV-2 by any sort ofGOF research.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts
Also blow up the notion that lab origins is not a conspiracy theory.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	denies

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Attribution

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Most important is that you need a very close relative (99% or better) to get to SARS-CoV-2 by any sort ofGOF research.

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

asserts

Also blow up the notion that lab origins is not a conspiracy theory.

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

denies

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2021-02-08 12:15 Andrew Rambaut open

Just spotted this on BBC [shared file(s): Image from iOS.jpg]
2021-02-08 12:16 Andrew Rambaut open

The sinister puppet master in the shadows
2021-02-08 12:16 Kristian G. Andersen open

Old news man, old news.
2021-02-08 12:18 Edward C. Holmes open

If they do find seropositive animal samples how long before the first 'they spiked the samples' tweets from Boston?
2021-02-08 12:31 Robert F. Garry

Just listened to some of the Alina podcast. She's vacuous, but also cleverly evasive. I am coming around [OK I'm already at] to Andrew's point that they really need to be boxed into a corner and made to come up with somespecifics. Most important is that you need a very close relative (99% or better) to get to SARS-CoV-2 by any sort ofGOF research. Also blow up the notion that lab origins is not a conspiracy theory. It is.
2021-02-08 12:39 Robert F. Garry open

The Puppet Master was one of the first supervillains faced by the the Fantastic Four. I remember it well back in1963.... No resemblance to Eddie
2021-02-08 12:39 Robert F. Garry open

Maybe a little? [shared file(s): image.png]
2021-02-08 12:41 Edward C. Holmes open

Oh, I'm going to be using that!
2021-02-08 12:42 Edward C. Holmes open

Linfa's paper that is out in Nat Comms tomorrow... keep in conference [shared file(s): Nat Comm_Author Proof-LW210208.pdf]

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