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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.427 [SLACK_000641] · slack_pm:msg:04408

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Date
2021-01-19 18:44
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Kristian G. Andersen

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Yeah, clearly a party line here - which is pretty horrible. It's the fucking blame game from the US causing this. Let's make Eddie last

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  1. 2021-01-19 18:37 Robert F. Garry open
    Author list? Opt 1 - switch Eddie and Kristian and make Eddie corresponding. Opt 2 leave Eddie at second and make him co-first. Not sure where to put Tommy in either case.
  2. 2021-01-19 18:37 Edward C. Holmes open
    "In addition, nucleic fragments of SARS-CoV-2 were also detected using PCR and sequencing approaches. For example, SARS-CoV-2 in wastewater in northern Italy using both nested RT-PCR targeting the ORF1ab region and real-rime RT-PCR targeting the RdRp region, and the earliest positive samples were dated back to December 18, 2020 in Milan and Turin [La Rosa G et al., Sci Total Environ]. Similarly, the detection of SARS-CoV-2 in wastewatersamples was also reported using real-time RT-PCR targeting the N gene, with the archived sample collected inSpain on March 12, 2019 [Randazzo et al., Water research]. The SARS-CoV-2 RNA was also detected in a patientin France in December 2019 using two different PCR-based assays and his last international travel was to Algeria inAugust 2019 [Deslandes et al., IJAA]. However, none of the three studies reported the viral sequences from the positive samples. More recently, SARS-CoV-2 RNA was identified in an oropharyngeal swab specimen collected from a child with suspected measles in Italy in early December 2019 [Amendola et al., EID]. In addition, the amplified470-bp fragment of the spike gene from the child showed 100% identical to that of SARS-CoV-2. All these studies highlight the potential cryptic spread of SARS-CoV-2 in some European countries before the first reported case inrespective country, whose implications for the origins of SARS-CoV-2 clearly require further investigation."
  3. 2021-01-19 18:37 Edward C. Holmes open
    You should be corresponding Bob, but I don't mind going last (or 2nd).
  4. 2021-01-19 18:38 Edward C. Holmes open
    Weifeng is clearly being told to tow the party line...I'm going to have to take my name off otherwise it will underminemy credibility. Thoughts?
  5. 2021-01-19 18:44 Kristian G. Andersen
    Yeah, clearly a party line here - which is pretty horrible. It's the fucking blame game from the US causing this. Let's make Eddie last
  6. 2021-01-19 18:44 Kristian G. Andersen open
    And yeah - I'd take my name off it - language like this is going to raise eyebrows and I don't think you want to be partof that
  7. 2021-01-19 18:45 Edward C. Holmes open
    Agreed, thanks. I'll use all the tact I can muster to get out of this. I might offer to edit the English but not be anauthor. What a fucking mess.
  8. 2021-01-19 18:49 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Talking about a fucking mess - look at how Carl Z is quoting me in the NYT [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-01-19at 6.47.19 PM.png]
  9. 2021-01-19 18:50 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Now, look at my full quote [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-01-19 at 6.47.52 PM.png]

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