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Date
2020-11-18 20:49
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes
Topics
Vaccines

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Totally nuts. I can't believe they got away saying that H1N1 of 1977 was a lab escape from China!!! It was actually ashonky vaccination campaign.

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  1. 2020-11-18 20:36 Edward C. Holmes open
    But that was bloody obvious and they never tried to hide it. I see this shit is now out: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bies.202000240
  2. 2020-11-18 20:39 Edward C. Holmes open
    Wiley are now on my banned list.
  3. 2020-11-18 20:45 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Hah, that would never have made it through as a preprint... Yeah, Wiley is junk, junk, junk.
  4. 2020-11-18 20:45 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Rossana is fucking nuts and just such a giant amateur.
  5. 2020-11-18 20:49 Edward C. Holmes
    Totally nuts. I can't believe they got away saying that H1N1 of 1977 was a lab escape from China!!! It was actually ashonky vaccination campaign.
  6. 2020-11-18 20:51 Kristian G. Andersen open
    ... I missed that part. I thought it was the Russians - but hey, same thing, right? I can see Alina has gone full-onconspiracy with this too. Good stuff. It'll be hilarious looking back at these tweets in a couple of years.
  7. 2020-11-18 20:53 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Hah! We have Joel to thank for the China emergence of H1N1 :wink: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0011184
  8. 2020-11-18 20:53 Kristian G. Andersen open
    (I know he's been working on SARS-CoV-2 to look at origins - interested to see what he comes up with).
  9. 2020-11-18 20:57 Edward C. Holmes open
    Somebody had some Twitter correspondence with Jon Cohen and presented all the evidence that 1977 H1N1 was a dodgy vaccine. There was a pretty convincing paper that Jon seemed to buy. I did. I'll see if I can find it.

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