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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.229 [SLACK_000443] · slack_pm:msg:02376

Date: 2020-10-25 07:41
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry
Topics: Intelligence community assessments

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I'd add to Kristian's list TV science "experts" [especially those that fake the disease they are spreading disinformation about], outbreak culture in general and - related to the latter - "science" by Zenado/internet [Yan}/twitter {Chan}. The current iterations of CDC, FDA and WHO also need many changes... As for the PNAS article it's about as useful as the "COVID came from snakes or on a meteorite" papers.

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2020-10-25 06:16 Robert F. Garry open

Thanks - crazy - hopefully Zeta just an annoyance, but sure to chew up an inordinate amt of time.
2020-10-25 06:49 Andrew Rambaut open

Yeah. This really sucks. Dumb. I like the note: 'Whereas all authors agreed on the final manuscript, not every author agrees on every point in the paper.'
2020-10-25 06:50 Andrew Rambaut open

@Eddie Holmes The only virus I can think of that alters host behaviour to enhance transmission is rabies and that ispretty extreme (and a hardly a subtle action).
2020-10-25 07:19 Kristian G. Andersen open

COVID has put to light the things that desperately need to change/die. PNAS is on that list. Demagogues too. And Stanford.
2020-10-25 07:41 Robert F. Garry

I'd add to Kristian's list TV science "experts" [especially those that fake the disease they are spreading disinformation about], outbreak culture in general and - related to the latter - "science" by Zenado/internet [Yan}/twitter {Chan}. The current iterations of CDC, FDA and WHO also need many changes... As for the PNAS article it's about as useful as the "COVID came from snakes or on a meteorite" papers.
2020-10-25 08:14 Kristian G. Andersen open

I'm all for science _messaging_ on twitter, but yes, this whole science _by twitter_ gotta stop - it's ridiculous. Ibelieve a certain Fred Hutch researcher hopefully learned that as well...

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