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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.167 [SLACK_000381] · slack_pm:msg:01709

Date: 2020-09-14 23:36
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes
speaker: Andrew Rambaut
Topics: Biosafety and biosecurity

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Just saw this - ```In fact, a Chinese BSL-3 lab (the Shanghai Public Health Clinical Centre), which published a Nature article reporting a conflicting close phylogenetic relationship between SARS- 35 36 CoV-2 and ZC45/ZXC21 rather than with RaTG13 , was quickly shut down for "rectification" . It is believed that the researchers of that laboratory were being punished for having disclosed the SARS-CoV-2--ZC45/ZXC21connection.``` They don't notice that that you are on that paper, Eddie?

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Just saw this - ```In fact, a Chinese BSL-3 lab (the Shanghai Public Health Clinical Centre), which published a Nature article reporting a conflicting close phylogenetic relationship between SARS- 35 36 CoV-2 and ZC45/ZXC21 rather than with RaTG13 , was quickly shut down for "rectification" .	quoted / not their view	quoted_external sentence carries quotation marks	asserts

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2020-09-14 23:34 Kristian G. Andersen open

Oh, yes - of course. Followed by accelerated evolution in lungs to create SARS2
2020-09-14 23:35 Kristian G. Andersen open

Where it's been hiding out since that mine thingie, I'm not sure - but probably a freezer or something.
2020-09-14 23:35 Edward C. Holmes open

Does this mean that these conspiracy theorists think the other conspiracy theorists are conspiracy theorists for suggesting that RaTG13 is real? I need to know.
2020-09-14 23:35 Kristian G. Andersen open

Nah, that's just a conspiracy theory.
2020-09-14 23:36 Andrew Rambaut

Just saw this - ```In fact, a Chinese BSL-3 lab (the Shanghai Public Health Clinical Centre), which published a Nature article reporting a conflicting close phylogenetic relationship between SARS- 35 36 CoV-2 and ZC45/ZXC21 rather than with RaTG13 , was quickly shut down for "rectification" . It is believed that the researchers of that laboratory were being punished for having disclosed the SARS-CoV-2--ZC45/ZXC21connection.``` They don't notice that that you are on that paper, Eddie?
2020-09-14 23:37 Edward C. Holmes open

So, am I in the conspiracy or not?
2020-09-14 23:38 Edward C. Holmes open

The rectification was for publishing the sequence, not the link to ZC45.
2020-09-14 23:40 Kristian G. Andersen open

Well, they do cite your CV, so there's that.
2020-09-14 23:40 Edward C. Holmes open

Do I get a citation?

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