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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.152 [SLACK_000366] · slack_pm:msg:01555

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Date
2020-09-01 14:36
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes
speaker
Andrew Rambaut
Topics
China relations and data access

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But in this case it smells fishy. I don't believe there was enough SC2 around in Beijing for 6 out of their 273 patients even to have multiple exposures of radically different viruses, let alone actually become infected.

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I don't believe there was enough SC2 around in Beijing for 6 out of their 273 patients even to have multiple exposures of radically different viruses, let alone actually become infected. own voice, substantive speaker_own asserts

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  1. 2020-09-01 14:21 Edward C. Holmes open
    Not entirely unexpected given some of the common cold coronas. The classic literature (by Phil Minor) was suggesting multiple infection episodes within a year.
  2. 2020-09-01 14:36 Andrew Rambaut
    But in this case it smells fishy. I don't believe there was enough SC2 around in Beijing for 6 out of their 273 patients even to have multiple exposures of radically different viruses, let alone actually become infected.
  3. 2020-09-01 14:40 Edward C. Holmes open
    Perhaps, but the official numbers from China are clearly large underestimates.
  4. 2020-09-01 14:41 Andrew Rambaut open
    I agree but even so. One of the 6 is 2 years old.
  5. 2020-09-01 14:42 Andrew Rambaut open
    (but I don't know how I know that because I haven't seen the paper)
  6. 2020-09-01 14:42 Edward C. Holmes open
    Excellent educated guess.

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