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Date
2020-07-29 08:34
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recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Robert F. Garry
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Proximal Origin paper

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BTW - Proximal Origins is at 4.87m accesses - seems destined to cross 5m in a few weeks, which is actually quite remarkable.

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BTW - Proximal Origins is at 4.87m accesses - seems destined to cross 5m in a few weeks, which is actually quite remarkable. needs context uncertain explicit hedge asserts

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  1. 2020-07-29 07:34 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Wouldn't be the first time he was wrong :wink:. I think contacting Clare is the right move - this is pretty serious and we need to counterpunch. I emailed Tony already and he's seen our draft emails - we haven't heard back as I'm sure he's much much too busy (that guy probably gets 10k+ emails a day?).
  2. 2020-07-29 07:58 Andrew Rambaut open
    I agree about contacting Clare given she is named in the 'missive' and it is possible he will try doing something with Nature next.
  3. 2020-07-29 08:06 Robert F. Garry open
    Agree and also the Editor of NatMed - It's very clearly a breach of peer review - not to mention the rewrite of historyto create a slanderous narrative. Thanks Eddie for pointing out the UnDark article :exploding_head: - I'm not feeling too sorry for the "Old Guard" coronavirologists in terms of their funding situation. Daszak and the Predict krewe got>$200M and found only one over-hyped human non-pathogenic virus BASV. If Deep Throat pushes Nature maybe Amy Maxmen of Nature can write the real story....
  4. 2020-07-29 08:06 Andrew Rambaut open
    A couple more points we should remember here: we posted it to virological on the 17th before we sent it to Nature. Also this is a 'letter' not a research paper.
  5. 2020-07-29 08:34 Robert F. Garry
    BTW - Proximal Origins is at 4.87m accesses - seems destined to cross 5m in a few weeks, which is actually quite remarkable.

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