Private channel session 255
6 messages over 1h 14m, 2020-07-29 – 2020-07-29.
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Is it too snarky to point out that the main conclusion of Baric's first SARS-CoV-2 paper rushed out in March is 180degrees wrong? They wrote: "Compared to previously isolated SARS-CoV strains, 2019-nCoV likely uses human ACE2 *less* efficiently than human SARS-CoV (year 2002) but more efficiently than human SARS-CoV (year2003)." IIRC wE nearly fell for this but fortunately, before we finalized "proximal Origins" new data came out showing the opposite. https://jvi.asm.org/content/94/7/e00127-20.long
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Wouldn't be the first time he was wrong :wink:. I think contacting Clare is the right move - this is pretty serious and we need to counterpunch. I emailed Tony already and he's seen our draft emails - we haven't heard back as I'm sure he's much much too busy (that guy probably gets 10k+ emails a day?).
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I agree about contacting Clare given she is named in the 'missive' and it is possible he will try doing something with Nature next.
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Agree and also the Editor of NatMed - It's very clearly a breach of peer review - not to mention the rewrite of historyto create a slanderous narrative. Thanks Eddie for pointing out the UnDark article :exploding_head: - I'm not feeling too sorry for the "Old Guard" coronavirologists in terms of their funding situation. Daszak and the Predict krewe got>$200M and found only one over-hyped human non-pathogenic virus BASV. If Deep Throat pushes Nature maybe Amy Maxmen of Nature can write the real story....
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A couple more points we should remember here: we posted it to virological on the 17th before we sent it to Nature. Also this is a 'letter' not a research paper.
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BTW - Proximal Origins is at 4.87m accesses - seems destined to cross 5m in a few weeks, which is actually quite remarkable.