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I'm _super_ worried about Moderna... Just not convinced that thing is safe.

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2020-07-23 08:47 Andrew Rambaut open

I agree that it is probably unnecessary - just try the vaccine.
2020-07-23 08:48 Kristian G. Andersen open

Let's just immunize Florida and see what happens.... :smiling_imp:
2020-07-23 08:51 Robert F. Garry open

I could get begind that
2020-07-23 08:51 Robert F. Garry open

but unfortunately it's not what they doinghttps://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2020/06/02/fauci-modernas-phase-3-covid-19-vaccine-trial-will-include-30000-young-and-old-individuals/#316e15174f75
2020-07-23 08:52 Kristian G. Andersen

I'm _super_ worried about Moderna... Just not convinced that thing is safe.
2020-07-23 08:53 Robert F. Garry open

Basically for Moderna they are immunizing/placeboing 30,000 people then sending them out to see how many get infected.
2020-07-23 08:53 Kristian G. Andersen open

They _really_ need to do that trial in high-transmission areas - i.e., not the North East!
2020-07-23 08:53 Robert F. Garry open

Agree - maybe not safe but even more dangerous - it may not work at all or very well - either would be a setback.
2020-07-23 08:55 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yeah, it's unclear to me - definitely appear to be "not safe", but as you say - it could be even worse. I'm super worried this is going to be Trump's next political trick - he would have _no_ hesitation pushing a vaccine through where we have very little or no data on population-wide safety