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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.81 [SLACK_000295] · slack_pm:msg:00812

Date: 2020-06-18 07:20
Type: chat message · slack
mentioned: Andrew Rambaut
recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen
Topics: China relations and data access Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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@Andrew Rambaut have you had a look at the Beijing genomes? I haven't had a chance yet, but that looks like more diversity than expected? I have a hard time believing it has been circulating undetected for quite a while inBeijing, so could it be a virus than went human > animal > human? Clearly not a separate introduction, but it's again linked to a wet market so I'm wondering if it can bounce back and forth (surely this is possible based on e.g.the Dutch mink farms).

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@Andrew Rambaut have you had a look at the Beijing genomes?	needs context	speaker_own	questions
I have a hard time believing it has been circulating undetected for quite a while inBeijing, so could it be a virus than went human > animal > human?	needs context	speaker_own	questions
Clearly not a separate introduction, but it's again linked to a wet market so I'm wondering if it can bounce back and forth (surely this is possible based on e.g.the Dutch mink farms).	needs context	speaker_own	questions

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@Andrew Rambaut have you had a look at the Beijing genomes?

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I have a hard time believing it has been circulating undetected for quite a while inBeijing, so could it be a virus than went human > animal > human?

needs context

speaker_own

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Clearly not a separate introduction, but it's again linked to a wet market so I'm wondering if it can bounce back and forth (surely this is possible based on e.g.the Dutch mink farms).

needs context

speaker_own

questions

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2020-06-18 06:57 Kristian G. Andersen open

Jesse's work is incredible. I had a quick look last night and it shows that there's still room for improvement in termsof better binding. Binding isn't everything though, so I wouldn't conclude it's "not as evolved" as previously thought -the binding is still very very strong (but.... so is the pangolin CoV, of course!).
2020-06-18 07:20 Kristian G. Andersen

@Andrew Rambaut have you had a look at the Beijing genomes? I haven't had a chance yet, but that looks like more diversity than expected? I have a hard time believing it has been circulating undetected for quite a while inBeijing, so could it be a virus than went human > animal > human? Clearly not a separate introduction, but it's again linked to a wet market so I'm wondering if it can bounce back and forth (surely this is possible based on e.g.the Dutch mink farms).
2020-06-18 07:29 Andrew Rambaut open

Just building a tree now. Initial tree of one sequence shows it is from Denmark: [shared file(s): image.png]
2020-06-18 07:51 Kristian G. Andersen open

Clearly this is from the UK! Denmark is innocent.
2020-06-18 07:52 Andrew Rambaut open

It was in a hotdog
2020-06-18 07:52 Kristian G. Andersen open

I'll take a sandwich over a fish

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