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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.51 [SLACK_000265] · slack_pm:msg:00506

Date: 2020-06-03 16:05
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Edward C. Holmes
Topics: Intelligence community assessments

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"Henceforth, those who would maintain that the Covid-19 pandemic arose from zoonotic transfer need to explain precisely why this more parsimonious account is wrong before asserting that their evidence is persuasive, most especially when, as we also show, there are puzzling errors in their use of evidence." Is this us?

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"Henceforth, those who would maintain that the Covid-19 pandemic arose from zoonotic transfer need to explain precisely why this more parsimonious account is wrong before asserting that their evidence is persuasive, most especially when, as we also show, there are puzzling errors in their use of evidence." Is this us?	quoted / not their view	quoted_external inside quotation marks	questions

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2020-06-03 15:56 Edward C. Holmes open

Did you read the paper in question. I don't really see how it supports a lab escape?
2020-06-03 15:58 Andrew Rambaut open

It doesn't - but the article explains that it has been watered down apparently.
2020-06-03 15:58 Andrew Rambaut open

And a new paper is coming out as soon as they find someone to publish it.
2020-06-03 16:04 Edward C. Holmes open

Got it. I went straight to the paper. Have you seen the original? I'd love to see what this compelling evidence is.
2020-06-03 16:05 Edward C. Holmes

"Henceforth, those who would maintain that the Covid-19 pandemic arose from zoonotic transfer need to explain precisely why this more parsimonious account is wrong before asserting that their evidence is persuasive, most especially when, as we also show, there are puzzling errors in their use of evidence." Is this us?
2020-06-03 16:11 Andrew Rambaut open

Presumably. I see a 40K Altmetric.
2020-06-03 16:13 Edward C. Holmes open

"To remedy the problem, the researchers are developing their own vaccine, produced by Immunor AS, a Norwegian pharmaceutical company led by Mr Sorensen".
2020-06-03 16:14 Andrew Rambaut open

Of course they are.
2020-06-03 16:30 Kristian G. Andersen open

Is it this mystery paper? [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2020-06-03 at 4.30.01 PM.png]

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